Atlanta should move up to 8th by the 2020 census (Dallas: buy, college)

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Fed Ex moved its HQ to Dallas?

The headquarters of FedEx Office (formerly Kinko's, which FedEx acquired) is in Plano but FedEx is still headquartered in Memphis.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Fed Ex moved its HQ to Dallas?

Fed EX Office, the former Kinko's.


Edit... I see Mutiny beat me to it...

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

The headquarters of FedEx Office (formerly Kinko's, which FedEx acquired) is in Plano but FedEx is still headquartered in Memphis.

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Fed EX Office, the former Kinko's.


Edit... I see Mutiny beat me to it...

Ok--makes sense know. I quickly read the "Office" as "office."

[aries4118]

Question (for Saintmarks, Mutiny, and others):


Do you think companies find Dallas more appealing than Atlanta overall (for expansion and/or relocation)? And if so, why?

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by aries4118

Question (for Saintmarks, Mutiny, and others):


Do you think companies find Dallas more appealing than Atlanta overall (for expansion and/or relocation)? And if so, why?

Good question. Maybe taxes/incentives? Infrastructure?

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Mutiny77

Good question. Maybe taxes/incentives? Infrastructure?

So you do think they find Dallas overall more appealing?

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by aries4118

So you do think they find Dallas overall more appealing?

Not substantially but on the whole, that's probable. They have a better road network, two major airports, possibly a more favorable corporate tax structure, and a workforce that's just as talented.

[Saintmarks]

While Toyota just chose DFW, Mercedes chose Atlanta, so it seems to be a pretty even competition. Dallas didn't take as big a hit during this last recession as Atlanta, so there is that to consider, but like I've mentioned in many other posts, I can't think of two cities in the country that are similar on so many fronts as Dallas and Atlanta.

Some of the decision might come down to location. Dallas made more sense for Toyota being an Asian company to centralize their NA operations a little more west, Mercedes being German likes Atlanta for being more central but a little more east. Texas is an attractive place for those wanting to flee the higher taxes and less corporate-friendly confines of California, Atlanta is seen in the same light for those based in the NE.

So, I don't know that Dallas has a huge edge on Atlanta. Atlanta has heavy rail which trumps DART's light rail. Dallas has a much better freeway network that trumps Atlanta's. Atlanta has Emory, Georgia Tech and Georgia State, DFW has SMU and TCU, two fine schools but not research universities. Cultural amenities... arts, museums, etc... a draw on some fronts but a win for DFW in that Fort Worth and Dallas both have excellent institutions. Atlanta has a stronger African American presence culturally and economically, Dallas a stronger Hispanic community.

Atlanta wins hands down on beauty of topography and closeness to mountains and beach.

Dallas has less infighting amongst counties and suburbs and core cities... much less actually. A better mindset for solving regional problems

Texas prides itself in no state income tax. But they make up for it in much higher property taxes.

Summary: I would say Dallas has an edge albeit only a slight one. I can't empirically say what it is exactly, but it lies somewhere in the things I mention above.

[Ant131531]

Dallas has always been larger than Atlanta and there have been periods where Atlanta has grown faster and periods where Dallas have grown faster. Right now, we're in a period where Dallas is growing much faster than Atlanta, but I think that will change as we close this decade. The cycle seems to be every 15 years or so. From 1990-2005, Atlanta grew faster than Dallas. From 2005-2019 or 2020, Dallas has grown faster.

One thing though is that Atlanta is much more reliant on blacks moving to the metro area. If Atlanta ever becomes unpopular with blacks, the growth could slow down dramatically unless other races come in and take the place.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

While Toyota just chose DFW, Mercedes chose Atlanta, so it seems to be a pretty even competition. Dallas didn't take as big a hit during this last recession as Atlanta, so there is that to consider, but like I've mentioned in many other posts, I can't think of two cities in the country that are similar on so many fronts as Dallas and Atlanta.

Some of the decision might come down to location. Dallas made more sense for Toyota being an Asian company to centralize their NA operations a little more west, Mercedes being German likes Atlanta for being more central but a little more east. Texas is an attractive place for those wanting to flee the higher taxes and less corporate-friendly confines of California, Atlanta is seen in the same light for those based in the NE.

So, I don't know that Dallas has a huge edge on Atlanta. Atlanta has heavy rail which trumps DART's light rail. Dallas has a much better freeway network that trumps Atlanta's. Atlanta has Emory, Georgia Tech and Georgia State, DFW has SMU and TCU, two fine schools but not research universities. Cultural amenities... arts, museums, etc... a draw on some fronts but a win for DFW in that Fort Worth and Dallas both have excellent institutions. Atlanta has a stronger African American presence culturally and economically, Dallas a stronger Hispanic community.

Atlanta wins hands down on beauty of topography and closeness to mountains and beach.

Dallas has less infighting amongst counties and suburbs and core cities... much less actually. A better mindset for solving regional problems

Texas prides itself in no state income tax. But they make up for it in much higher property taxes.

Summary: I would say Dallas has an edge albeit only a slight one. I can't empirically say what it is exactly, but it lies somewhere in the things I mention above.

And there's their airports as well. Good summarization.