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The peoples car can be done, it can happen for the good of us all. It can be amazing what the American determination is capable of, just remember what happened in 1942 and the transformation of cars to war machines, in less than a year, by the same car companies that produced you average Ford and Chevy. We can do it once again, this time in peace time, as it should be.
When I start hearing about the "Peoples Car", I just keep thinking of the days of the German Democratic Republic and the first people's car - the Trabant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It can happen again, with significant government control over the auto industry.
When I start hearing about the "Peoples Car", I just keep thinking of the days of the German Democratic Republic and the first people's car - the Trabant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It can happen again, with significant government control over the auto industry.
Times are different now. car ownership is huge, its the American way to drive when ever and where ever. We live in a big country...... And if you think a little socialism is a bad thing , think again, its in our future, like it or not. We just have way too many people, and way too few paying for the needs,wants, of the populous as a whole. people are living longer, we are an aging nation , and health care will soon overtake all other costs of living a comfortable life. Something does need to be done, something dramatic.
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Times are different now. car ownership is huge, its the American way to drive when ever and where ever. We live in a big country...... And if you think a little socialism is a bad thing , think again, its in our future, like it or not. We just have way too many people, and way too few paying for the needs,wants, of the populous as a whole. people are living longer, we are an aging nation , and health care will soon overtake all other costs of living a comfortable life. Something does need to be done, something dramatic.
Socialism has never worked....what makes you think it will work now?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Times are different now. car ownership is huge, its the American way to drive when ever and where ever. We live in a big country...... And if you think a little socialism is a bad thing , think again, its in our future, like it or not. We just have way too many people, and way too few paying for the needs,wants, of the populous as a whole. people are living longer, we are an aging nation , and health care will soon overtake all other costs of living a comfortable life. Something does need to be done, something dramatic.
From the Ukraine in the 20's to Eastern Europe in the 50s is a pool of blood from a "little bit of socialism", all done with good intentions and all directed by an elite.
You guys can point out the failed States, but you fail to discuss the successful. Just off the top , we have Canada ( strongest financial system in the world), Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the most successful of them all Denmark.... Fact is , we have had socialism for a long time, Social Security, a plan that has helped so so, many folks over the years. I don't know what my Mother would have done without it, just as a personal experience ( I collect it now myself, I paid in I now get paid back, if ever so meager amount)... Lets not debate SS here, we all know the System needs rebuilding, cause the politicians kept robbing from it over the years. Just like the gas taxes, it all went into general revenue instead of fixing our roads and bridges..... Bottom line, don't blame all the problems on social programs, as a cover up for failed programs ,greed, and corruption.
What if the price of gasoline crashes? There will be less interest in high mileage cars. In the 80's the price went from $1.30 to 90 cents a gallon and that's what happened. The gas tax was raised by a nickel, to fix the roads and it was barely noticed.
What if the price of gasoline crashes? There will be less interest in high mileage cars. In the 80's the price went from $1.30 to 90 cents a gallon and that's what happened. The gas tax was raised by a nickel, to fix the roads and it was barely noticed.
I covered that already. Having a " peoples car" , eleminates the problem of a fickle public and impulse buying. So many people have woke up the next morning with buyers remorse after signing on the line for a car they never set out to buy in the first place , and at a price point,payment, they can't afford anyway...... The PC will offer a balance, a filter , a stop measure, for a lot of folks around our country, affordability is what is needed in this attempt to economize our nation.
A good example was my own experence in the 70s. I recall the long lines at the pump, the rationing, the prices.... I went out and bought a Toyota Corrolia. Not much of a car, I hated it , and when the fuel became plentiful again I went to sell it.....no one wanted it, and I owed more than it was worth. I took a big hit , just to get rid of that econobox crap car.
Lets give more control to ourselves, more choices, more options, which now , are controled by big business.....with , the help of the Government. Big Business has the people right where they want them, check out the numbers for who is getting richer everyday, its not the average Joe, lower, middle even upper middle, no its the top 1-2 per cent, and thats wrong.
Might I remind you that business are started by individual people, run by individual people, and create jobs for people?
There is new wealth being created every single day FROM the middle class every day. My family and I are living proof.
Just cuz some aren't willing to put in the time and effort doesn't mean those who are willing are evil and out to rule the world.
You guys can point out the failed States, but you fail to discuss the successful. Just off the top , we have Canada ( strongest financial system in the world), Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the most successful of them all Denmark.... Fact is , we have had socialism for a long time, Social Security, a plan that has helped so so, many folks over the years. I don't know what my Mother would have done without it, just as a personal experience ( I collect it now myself, I paid in I now get paid back, if ever so meager amount)....
Let's put the cards on the table here. You and people like you who espouse these kinds of 'socialist' tendencies/philosophies are basically scared. You're scared you won't make it on your own and you want the 'collective' there to be your safety net. That's just a sad way to live, and if you DO insist on living that way, there are plenty of other countries out there who have already adopted those philosophies and will welcome you with open arms. You will trade your autonomy for security.
I want to help my fellow man, but I want to help him be the biggest bad-ass he can be - not give him a teat to suckle on contentedly so that he never feels the big, bad danger of real adult life coming after him.
Might I remind you that business are started by individual people, run by individual people, and create jobs for people?
There is new wealth being created every single day FROM the middle class every day. My family and I are living proof.
Just cuz some aren't willing to put in the time and effort doesn't mean those who are willing are evil and out to rule the world.
The distance between Big Business ( fortune 500s) , and the average small business that employs 10 people or less, ( Like I owned for 40 years), is light years.
When a company grows so large that its " too big to fail" , when it controls the marketplace to the point that predatory pricing takes over, when the people as a whole have little choice cause so few dominate the marketplace...well then , it no longer is a job creator, but a job eater. Just take a look at where all the jobs have gone...overseas...directed by big business, and it continues everyday.
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Socialism has never worked....what makes you think it will work now?
