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I can't believe that anyone in their right mind is willing to give MORE control to this idiotic government.
Lets give more control to ourselves, more choices, more options, which now , are controled by big business.....with , the help of the Government. Big Business has the people right where they want them, check out the numbers for who is getting richer everyday, its not the average Joe, lower, middle even upper middle, no its the top 1-2 per cent, and thats wrong.
Oh great, class warfare. If you cant' do it yourse,fe forcibly take it from those who did.
Great way to keep peopel from wanting to start a business, there. FOrced production? Right out of the commuhnist manifesto, that.
you think that engineers on teh same page for a cheap people's car will create innovation for any longer than it takes to invent the thing the first time? You think that any company is going to want to be in business if it's not allowed to expand, innovate, and make money for it's founders?
I certainly wouldn't want to start a business if the idea was that if you becaem succesful, jealous little snots said the goverment is right in taking the profits from me ansd spreading it around to those who didn't have the initialtve to go into business for themselves. Why work hard to earn more and improve yourself and innovate if it jsut gets forcibly taken away?
If there's a market for that simple, cheap people's car, then START A BUSINESS BUILDING IT. Reap the profits if the market wants it. But don't force everyone to make the same bottom feeder product so you can feel better about some misguided notion of economic equality.
Lets give more control to ourselves, more choices, more options, which now , are controled by big business.....with , the help of the Government. Big Business has the people right where they want them, check out the numbers for who is getting richer everyday, its not the average Joe, lower, middle even upper middle, no its the top 1-2 per cent, and thats wrong.
Some forget so soon...too big to fail. Most of those spewing the non regulated for all talk have never had a business, know nothing about what it takes to be successful in a small business. They will be the first ones at the gate when the free hand outs began as well. Talk is cheap, so are all the right wing talking points, that get these pitch fork folks riled up. " get a rope!" , thats all they know.
The biggest problem with our stagnant economy lies with the lack of funding small business, the big banks, and big business seven league boots stomping on the little guy trying to get a loan and make his business grow. The Fat cats are using their money and influence, from K street , all the way to buying votes and propping up Dictators, profiteering on war and bankrupting our Country.
Oh great, class warfare. If you cant' do it yourse,fe forcibly take it from those who did.
Great way to keep peopel from wanting to start a business, there. FOrced production? Right out of the commuhnist manifesto, that.
you think that engineers on teh same page for a cheap people's car will create innovation for any longer than it takes to invent the thing the first time? You think that any company is going to want to be in business if it's not allowed to expand, innovate, and make money for it's founders?
I certainly wouldn't want to start a business if the idea was that if you becaem succesful, jealous little snots said the goverment is right in taking the profits from me ansd spreading it around to those who didn't have the initialtve to go into business for themselves. Why work hard to earn more and improve yourself and innovate if it jsut gets forcibly taken away?
If there's a market for that simple, cheap people's car, then START A BUSINESS BUILDING IT. Reap the profits if the market wants it. But don't force everyone to make the same bottom feeder product so you can feel better about some misguided notion of economic equality.
You know why Ford and GM were so sucessful after the War?
It was their ability to get all the steel they needed, when all the small auto companies were left limiting production. Its our history, check it out. Equality in business, a level playing field, and fair work standards are not bad things....unless you are Big Business, and hold all the cards. We need Government to make them honest, not rape the people and the land, all for profits and their bottom line.
Wrong. What we have now is junkyards full of obsolete cars, that are not all that old ether, and I'll bet a lot of people still owe money on them. Being upside down in your car is as common as being same with your home these days. Having registration cost increase every year grows to a point where the car is turned in for a new, advanced model, cause its cheaper to buy new at that point. Thats what Japan is doing.... My whole plan is to get gas guzzlers and polluters off the roads, for the bulk of the public who only buys cars for transportation. Light duty trucks could also fit this design mode.
So how would it help someone upside-down on their car note to have to pay HIGHER registration costs every year? What sense does it make to make him buy a new car instead, if he wants keep his operating costs low?
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Autos today are designed by marketing, not engineers, part of the big problem. Yes the Government will, or would, have a big play in this...fact is already do. I offer a way out, for the masses, and the average Joe that just needs a car to get to work and to the store, that gets 70 MPG, that can be financed affordability with out huge insurance cost connected , and offers little impact on the enviorement. Can you imagine what could be done if all the engineering minds were on the same page , without some slick salesman interfence?. Can you imagine trading every 4 years old for new, and paying the difference without a car loan? Can you imagine not worring about warrenties, repair costs, and breaking down in a rural area where no parts are available ?.... It can be done, with the Peoples car, once again.....
This was the behavior that led us into the latest credit crisis.
If there's a market for that simple, cheap people's car, then START A BUSINESS BUILDING IT.
That's exactly the point of this thread. There is not a market for it, because from the cradle, Americans are taught that is demeaning to buy anything less than the absolute height of deluxity that Americans have been taught is their birthright. We are taught by our purveyors of orthodox humor to ridicule the frugal.
A lot of very cheap economical cars exist in the world, but it is illegal to import them into the USA because they do not meet our behemoth standards of safety and other BS. So even if you DO think there is a market for it, it will be legislated out of existence.
Amreicans are driving 20 year old Chevs that are gulping gas and draining oil and slaloming down the interstate at 80 mph on bad suspension and bald tires, but the $2500 Tata Nano is "unsafe" for import.
So how would it help someone upside-down on their car note to have to pay HIGHER registration costs every year? What sense does it make to make him buy a new car instead, if he wants keep his operating costs low?
This was the behavior that led us into the latest credit crisis.
You would not ever be upside down on a car note anymore. Peoples car prices would be fixed, so would be their value at " trade in" time. They all would be recycled, no used car lots. The incentive to turn it in for a new one by increasing the reg. fees every year, levels the field, keeps production constant, and allows for inovation, upgrades as tech. goes foward.
Check out the numbers now. Most people trade cars before the last one is paid off. The difference in the deal is based on the " trade in value", which often puts people upside down in their car. The finance costs are folded in and we wind up with another upside down deal, only more so. Its a visious cycle.
That's exactly the point of this thread. There is not a market for it, because from the cradle, Americans are taught that is demeaning to buy anything less than the absolute height of deluxity that Americans have been taught is their birthright. We are taught by our purveyors of orthodox humor to ridicule the frugal.
A lot of very cheap economical cars exist in the world, but it is illegal to import them into the USA because they do not meet our behemoth standards of safety and other BS. So even if you DO think there is a market for it, it will be legislated out of existence.
Amreicans are driving 20 year old Chevs that are gulping gas and draining oil and slaloming down the interstate at 80 mph on bad suspension and bald tires, but the $2500 Tata Nano is "unsafe" for import.
Reflecting my points , good examples. Americans mostly have little imagine, one of the reasons most cars are sold on Week-ends and Friday nites. Impulse buying at its best.
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