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Old 12-09-2015, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Moscow
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Or just use your GPS. Why make it harder on yourself. One probably doesn't need GPS to get to any major city in US. But trying to find exact location is a different story. Those road signs won't help you find 1456 Park Dr, Anytown, USA (and not St or Ave, but Dr)
There are maps of most towns that will take care of that.

I don't think anyone is saying gps isn't nice. Using paper maps isn't as hard as some make it sound.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:02 PM
 
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There are maps of most towns that will take care of that.

I don't think anyone is saying gps isn't nice. Using paper maps isn't as hard as some make it sound.
I'm an advocate for paper maps in certain scenarios but for 99% of the time it's GPS
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Old 12-09-2015, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC & Augusta, GA
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Seatbelts, as in lap belts at a minimum. That's absolutely all.
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Or just use your GPS. Why make it harder on yourself. One probably doesn't need GPS to get to any major city in US. But trying to find exact location is a different story. Those road signs won't help you find 1456 Park Dr, Anytown, USA (and not St or Ave, but Dr)
First, I can't "just use my GPS" because I don't have one, I don't need one, and I don't wish to surround myself with expensive toys and try to learn how to use them.

I can find 1456 Park Dr in Anytown before i leave home, on google maps, and write down the directions or rough out a map for myself (I don't have a printer, either, so I can't "just use" that). That requires a pen and a piece of paper, and there are still a few of us who have those lying around the house, too, and have even ascended the learning curve of mastering the use of the things. Battery, charger and connectivity not required. Remember those? Why make it harder on yourself? Why, I can even write my grocery list on a piece of paper, so I don't have to look at the screen on my cellphone when I'm at the store. (Are they still called cellphones? I don't have one of those, either.)

I have a $50 multi-purpose tablet, and i can download maps.me so I don't need to be online to zoom in on a detailed map of Anytown when I'm on the road. How much does a GPS cost, which can only do one thing?

And most importantly, none of the above need to be installed options or features permanently attached to my car (the topic of this thread). Like a flashlight or a ball point pen,, I can take them along with me in case I need them.

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Old 12-09-2015, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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I think most cars that offer a mid-range or premium stereo/audio upgrade use higher end components and have factory stereos that were just as good as mid-range high end ones back 10 years ago today.


Which is why the aftermarket stereo Business has seemed to die off or not be as big as it used too when people where upgraded older cars with Cd players and large aftermarket subwoofers that were over kill to have 4 12" subs in the trunk when a decent high-end 10" or single 12" would do IMO.
Hasn't really died off it's just with those stupid infotainment systems, you can't really install an aftermarket headunit, and it's not just the size, they're tied into every electrical system.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY
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Heated seats
Heat
Double DIN radio/cd player(so I can swap it out for awesome)
Manual adjustable seats
Manual transmission
rwd, or a symetrical or rwd biased awd system
Torsen center diff for said awd(viscous coupling can kick rocks)
modable suspension
modable engine
Throttle CABLE
Seperate blinkers for the tail lights(I hate cars that use the same bulbs(s) for braking, and blinkers/hazards)
Surround sound
Power locks
If automatic; one that is actually shiftable, and not with a manual mode.
No bigger than 18" wheels
dual exhaust
rear disc brakes

As far as back up systems, I have a back up alarm waiting for my next vehicle.

I do like those brake light plug in things that strobe the brake light, would be awesome for a chmsl(even though I don't see the need for a chmsl)
I think that's about it, oh, and no cloth seats, don't have to be leather, but not chintzy cloth.

For a truck/suv; same things but solid axles, manula locking hubs, manual t-case, anything smaller than a tahoe doesn't need a 3rd row.
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Old 12-09-2015, 10:24 PM
 
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Asking for directions was always considered a failure of manhood and using GPS just makes that a private shame lol.
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There are maps of most towns that will take care of that.

I don't think anyone is saying gps isn't nice. Using paper maps isn't as hard as some make it sound.
Paper maps are invaluable for other things than driving. I find they are very useful doing genealogy.... but you have to make notes of what towns were called then...
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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First, I can't "just use my GPS" because I don't have one, I don't need one, and I don't wish to surround myself with expensive toys and try to learn how to use them.

I can find 1456 Park Dr in Anytown before i leave home, on google maps,


So you used what smartphones use for GPS instead of taking it with you. But you're simply making more work for yourself just so you can brag about not using it.
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Pikesville, MD
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There are maps of most towns that will take care of that.
So you carry 300 paper maps of all the towns you might visit/drive through? Or do you just keep them all in the house and sort through them before any trip?

Sorry, paper maps sitting on the seat next to you or unfolded in front of you are a bad idea in modern times.



Paper maps don't tell you what lane you're going to need to be in to make an exit, especially on complex interstate interchanges. They don't get you around backed up traffic or find new routes around road construction.
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Old 12-10-2015, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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I'm planning on buying a relatively new vehicle next year, and will be installing a long haul style cam recording system: probably three cams, front, rear, and passing side. It's a new world of idiots and liars out there, including cops. For around a grand it's cheap insurance.

And I might consider a hidden tracking/logging device.

Surprised with all the new tech these two features aren't now standard.
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