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What’s their next step? Banning diesel powered passenger vehicles?
The next step is banning all sales of gasoline and diesel powered vehicles by 2035.
Many people here on C-D have commented, "what is the big deal banning new sales, as long as you can keep your old gas powered vehicle?" This thread shows the big deal. At any moment, California can simply ban all gas/diesel powered cars older than a given year, right down to all classic cars.
Is this going to cause out of state trucks to stop at bordering state lines and drop trailers and then CA EV trucks will pick them up? Are they going to try and force the railroads into this? That’ll be hilarious as railroad will tell them to go f*st themselves.
I do understand what they are doing though. In order to clean the smog problems via geography/weather things, things need to change and this is a step.
Banning carbon-based fuel vehicles has nothing to do with smog. It is only being done to eliminate CO2 emissions.
If this was done 15 years ago , but it was just not enforced until now?
Who is responsible for this NOW going into effect?
CARB, the California Air Resources Board, enforces California air quality standards. 15 years ago, they set a timetable to ban older commercial diesel trucks when they implemented then clean diesel standards. The then-new standards were temporary and gave 15 years to meet much more rigorous future standards.
It gets much worse than that. I forget the details, but some years back there were entire fleets of new commercial diesel trucks that did not meet the CARB standards for clean diesel, and had to have their nearly new engines ripped out and replaced with CARB compliant engines.
Meanwhile, a full diesel ban is on the horizon.
Big change for big rigs: California unveils mandate to phase out diesel trucks
CARB even regulates emissions from ocean going shipping vessels through the US EPA.
EPA and California Reduce Allowable Emissions from Large Ships
8월 28, 2009
In two separate actions, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (“EPA”) and the California Air Resources Board (“ARB”) have announced steps to further limit emissions from diesel-powered, ocean-going ships.
CALIFORNIA’S REGULATIONS EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2009
California’s new regulations require that ocean-going ships switch to fuels with lower sulfur content before coming within 24 nautical miles of the state’s coast. The regulations were originally promulgated in 2008; however, a legal challenge delayed implementation of the regulations. A federal court decision issued in June 2009 has cleared the way for imposition of the new requirements.
Under the regulations, an estimated 2,000 ocean-going vessels, both U.S.-flagged and foreign-flagged, have to use lower-sulfur marine distillates rather than the more polluting heavy-fuel oil (often called bunker fuel) when visiting California ports.
Sorry but they’ve had 15 years to prepare for this.
15 years ago was 2007. Right after that, the world collapsed and took about 5 years to get back to normal.
So that leaves 10 years to prepare. But wait!
On the eve of changing over, we had Covid 19 shut down the world for 18 months, with severe supply chain bottlenecks, including a severe semiconductor chip shortage approaching zero.
So during the two most critical years immediately before commercial fleets had to upgrade for CARB compliance, the world collapsed again.
I could be wrong but I find 15 years hard to believe. Would you mind sharing a link?
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Originally Posted by nirvana07
So, CARB ruled in 2008 that they would ban 2010 made trucks in 2023?
CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD
Truck and Bus Regulation
The Truck and Bus regulation has been in effect since December 2008 and we are now in the last replacement phase of the regulation with a final deadline of January 1, 2023, to upgrade to 2010 or newer model year engines. Please submit any compliance documentation by emailing a scanned copy or photos of your documents to trucrs@arb.ca.gov. Include your TRUCRS ID number, a detailed description of the request, and list any applicable VIN(s). Please do not mail hard copy documentation unless requested by staff. Faxing of documentation is no longer available.
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Therefore, by January 1, 2023, nearly all trucks and buses will be required to have 2010 or newer model year engines to reduce particulate matter (PM) and oxides of nitrogen (NOx) emissions. To help ensure that the benefits of this regulation are achieved, starting in 2020, only vehicles compliant with this regulation will be registered by the California Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).
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Good time to go 'truck shopping' in CA.
A friend who did weekly runs TX to CA for fresh produce during the last 27 yrs sold his truck in Sept. Great Idea.
His maintenance burden to meet emission standards cost too much time and money.
Poor Dependability of vehicle full of Emission electronics and sensors resulted in time off the road waiting for appointments at service center.
Not driving, = not earning.
Not earning, = not making enough to keep business alive and to keep family fed.
How are they trying to destroy the economy of California? Clean air is a good thing. Older diesel trucks are a major contributor to poor air quality and particulate emissions. The new rules allow 2010 and newer engines to be used. That means 12 year old engines are legal in California. Which seems reasonable.
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