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Old 03-26-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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If he were losing consciousness, he might have only had enough time to program a few turns. He would have had to program hundreds of turns in a tight area to stay close to land until it ran out of fuel. Why he did it, may have been to stay aloft as long as possible with the hope that the fire or smoke would dissipate over time and he might regain control.
Read the Helios account - if the plane reaches the destination it automatically goes into a holding pattern and flies in a circle. All the pilot would need to do is program a single destination and it would hold there. Langkawi would have been the logical destination since it was closest to where the alleged fire occurred. But no, he went past Langkawi, past the Straights of Malacca, avoided Indonesia, and when he got to the Bay of Bengal intentionally turned south. That is not a confused route and is not a route for someone seeking safety.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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Article today about "Last Joy Ride"...a friend of the pilot said his emotional state was not good because of family issues (both wife and girlfriend) and he thinks he had rehearsed all these odd movements of the plane (sharp turns, going up and down in altitude) on his simulator and this was his last joy ride to do all the things he wanted to do but could never do in reality before. It was basically a suicide mission...and a wild ride for him to the end. Friend believes he killed the co-pilot and took the plane up to to high altitude to kill all the other passengers, and then went on the ride of his life until he ran out of fuel.

This is seriously one of the most believable scenarios I've read because it does make sense as to why none of the actions taken could really all come together under any other explanation.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Allegedly more debris (120 or so pieces) have been found; and now the question is, why can't they (or have they) gathered some of it up to identify parts as being from the 777. ?
Well, they saw satellite photos showing over 120 pieces of what looks like debris, which may or not be from an aircraft. They have dispatched aircraft and boats, but it is a long long way from anything. Fixed wing aircraft that get out that far can't really do much. Not sure if any choppers close to there are capable of getting out that far or if they could be air refueled. IT sounds like they are getting closer to getting some confirmations. Once they get a few ships out there, possibly something carrying choppers, they will know.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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Article today about "Last Joy Ride"...a friend of the pilot said his emotional state was not good because of family issues (both wife and girlfriend) and he thinks he had rehearsed all these odd movements of the plane (sharp turns, going up and down in altitude) on his simulator and this was his last joy ride to do all the things he wanted to do but could never do in reality before. It was basically a suicide mission...and a wild ride for him to the end. Friend believes he killed the co-pilot and took the plane up to to high altitude to kill all the other passengers, and then went on the ride of his life until he ran out of fuel.

This is seriously one of the most believable scenarios I've read because it does make sense as to why none of the actions taken could really all come together under any other explanation.
This was my theory as well. Unfortunately, is the one that makes the most sense given the little that we have. The actions seem too deliberate. But we'll have to wait and see how it all shakes out.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Article today about "Last Joy Ride"...a friend of the pilot said his emotional state was not good because of family issues (both wife and girlfriend) and he thinks he had rehearsed all these odd movements of the plane (sharp turns, going up and down in altitude) on his simulator and this was his last joy ride to do all the things he wanted to do but could never do in reality before. It was basically a suicide mission...and a wild ride for him to the end. Friend believes he killed the co-pilot and took the plane up to to high altitude to kill all the other passengers, and then went on the ride of his life until he ran out of fuel.

This is seriously one of the most believable scenarios I've read because it does make sense as to why none of the actions taken could really all come together under any other explanation.
He could have done that without passengers.

A joy ride? He could have taken some cash, rented a private jet and done all that too plus land and live to enjoy the time. If his intent was to end the ride in a crash, that too would have been possible in a much easier way than the way he did it.

He could have volunteered to ferry airliners sans passengers and done the same thing as well and not had to bother with all the other stuff.

The theory doesn't hold up.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:31 AM
 
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Article today about "Last Joy Ride"...a friend of the pilot said his emotional state was not good because of family issues (both wife and girlfriend) and he thinks he had rehearsed all these odd movements of the plane (sharp turns, going up and down in altitude) on his simulator and this was his last joy ride to do all the things he wanted to do but could never do in reality before. It was basically a suicide mission...and a wild ride for him to the end. Friend believes he killed the co-pilot and took the plane up to to high altitude to kill all the other passengers, and then went on the ride of his life until he ran out of fuel.

This is seriously one of the most believable scenarios I've read because it does make sense as to why none of the actions taken could really all come together under any other explanation.
As far fetched as that sounds - it really is the best and most realistic scenario explaining everything we know at this point.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'd say this current debris field is probably the plane. I know there's a lot of crap in the ocean but this is all in 1 area.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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Article today about "Last Joy Ride"...a friend of the pilot said his emotional state was not good because of family issues (both wife and girlfriend) and he thinks he had rehearsed all these odd movements of the plane (sharp turns, going up and down in altitude) on his simulator and this was his last joy ride to do all the things he wanted to do but could never do in reality before. It was basically a suicide mission...and a wild ride for him to the end. Friend believes he killed the co-pilot and took the plane up to to high altitude to kill all the other passengers, and then went on the ride of his life until he ran out of fuel.

This is seriously one of the most believable scenarios I've read because it does make sense as to why none of the actions taken could really all come together under any other explanation.
The Malaysian government is having the FBI is analyze the deleted data that was on the pilot's simulator. The pilot last deleted data on Feb. 3, according to reports I read. It could be nothing. I haven't heard any rumbling about what the FBI has found.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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He could have done that without passengers.

A joy ride? He could have taken some cash, rented a private jet and done all that too plus land and live to enjoy the time. If his intent was to end the ride in a crash, that too would have been possible in a much easier way than the way he did it.

He could have volunteered to ferry airliners sans passengers and done the same thing as well and not had to bother with all the other stuff.

The theory doesn't hold up.

^^^ Exactly. Most suicide is carried out privately.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Haiku
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If the new pieces of debris they've spotted really are from Flight 370, I wonder what that says about how it crashed? They're finding several huge pieces. If a plane falls from a great height doesn't it shatter into all little pieces, even if not at cruising altitude? (I think that Alaska Air one was at 12K when it fell).
There was a news item about this recently. The 777 will descend at a rate of 3km of glide for every 1000 feet of altitude. But it will descend at full speed, around 500 mph. So if it was at cruising altitude of 30,000 feet it can glide for 90 km before hitting the water at high speed. So its starting altitude does not matter as much as its forward momentum. At any rate it would no doubt shatter.
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