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Old 05-18-2014, 09:45 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I think it is undesirable to travel by a plane having a child younger than ten years old.
Maybe, but it's sure as hell not realistic not to travel with kids until they're ten.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:47 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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People, you need to distinguish between ages here. How are you defining "kids?"

As you get into grade school age, yes, children should be able to behave themselves.

If you're talking about babies and toddlers...recognize that they are not mature beings with whom you can reason. And sometimes, they have to travel on planes, too. So in that case, you have to be the mature one and deal with it graciously. You can be sure that the parents are not enjoying it.
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Old 05-18-2014, 10:55 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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My mum always says "children shouldn't travel they don't remember".
But grandparents who can't (or won't) travel do. Believe me, if I could have avoided flying with three young children, I certainly would have done so. Now my kids are older, and it's just a tremendous financial burden at this point. I would happily have paid for my parents' to travel here for all these years, but they wouldn't have it, and they were unable to foot the bill themselves. It sucked all the way around.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:10 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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For me, flying is such a headache nothing about it is enjoyable. Thus, I avoid it whenever possible. Most of the times the kids I've seen on planes have been very well behaved. If the kids are fussy, I try to be understanding. I am not a parent myself, but I get that the parents don't have much choice. Most of the parents appear to make every effort to keep the kids calm and quiet, whatever the age, and I applaud their efforts.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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The only way young children should be allowed on a plane, is in cages in the cargo area with the rest of the pets.
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Old 05-18-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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I think it is undesirable to travel by a plane having a child younger than ten years old.
Children are all different though.. my two year old grandson slept almost all the way to Florida from the UK. he was no bother at all. and I didnt hear other kids crying or carrying on either on that flight.. adults to me are more of a problem on planes
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Old 05-18-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Ok, this is going to be an endless debate. Kids will always be on airplanes, unless you get yourself a private plane ... so in all honesty, get over it and accept it. It's not going to change anytime soon. Get yourself a good pair of noise cancelling headphones, upgrade to business or at the very least, when at the gate ask the attendent if there are kids in your area and ask to be transferred to a seat further away.

To lighten the mood to this subject have a look at this link, I'm sure everyone (kids on airplane haters, and "just deal with its") will appreciate it **WARNING .. there is some foul language used on this page, but meant in a humerous way**:
How commercial airplanes SHOULD be laid out - The Oatmeal

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Old 05-18-2014, 02:11 PM
 
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Kids on a plane
Sounds like the title of a bad movie--and probably more annoying than snakes, too.
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Old 05-18-2014, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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No, but I'd rather sit next to a crying child than some fatty who's spilling over into my seat the whole flight.
Why is it one or the other? What does a kid have to do with an overweight person?

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It is not my responsiblity to raise someone else's kid. If the kids life is in danger I will take action. That is where any obligation I might have towards that kid ends.
Thank you.

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Amazing how all these *complainers* forget what kind of *lousy attitude*
they had when *they* were that age ....

Get over it !
Not me. I started flying by myself at five (this was the 1970s) to go see my cousins. My dad would have beat my butt if I even made a noise. I wasn't allowed to speak to anyone but the flight crew.

Let's be honest here, some parents are so used to tuning their kids out, when they do it in public, they don't realize how loud their children are.

This happens all the time at my husband's restaurants and he has to reprimand the parents. When you are having to move have your restaurant away from a screaming child, and the parents don't realize there is a problem, you have a serious problem.
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Old 05-18-2014, 06:59 PM
 
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If the airlines were motivated enough to charge overweight passengers for an extra seat because it was affecting another passenger, then you'd think they could reimburse passengers who had to sit next to a screaming toddler for four hours. Or create a no-fly-for-at-least-five-years list for kids whose behavior has at least two passengers lodge a complaint on the same flight. Or no-fly for the parents if they don't do anything about disruptive behavior. Parents really do tune out the awful noises their kids can make (I think this is how parents stay sane) but its their responsibility to control the situation. If a person got drunk on a flight and starting singing loudly, he'd be told to shut up, or be escorted off the plane. Disruptive behavior is disruptive behavior. No one has a right to fly. It's a privilege.

I'm only half serious, to be honest. My sister had a baby late last year, so I totally get it about kids - babies cry, sometimes there's no consoling them, their ears hurt (that is an awful pain), etc. I've worked with kids, and sometimes they just have too much energy. (Cold medicine, anyone? Heh).
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