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Old 10-10-2010, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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What I;m trying to explain to you is I wpuld like to see the Phillies or Yankees in a Game 7
You've done a ****ty job of explaining that, until now.

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the brawl for it all type of game. The Phillies or Yankees havent been in that type of game at all in past 3 years.
If that's what you want, then you also want 1 games playoffs, not 7 game playoffs. Since a 7th game is just a one game playoff.

Now, can you explain how you expect an inferior team to win 3 out of 7 games when they have failed to be able to win 2 out of 5 games?
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:08 PM
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You've done a ****ty job of explaining that, until now.



If that's what you want, then you also want 1 games playoffs, not 7 game playoffs. Since a 7th game is just a one game playoff.

Now, can you explain how you expect an inferior team to win 3 out of 7 games when they have failed to be able to win 2 out of 5 games?


Because being down 0-2 headed home is a lot different if you are 2 games away from elimination. The reds probably have given up like the Twins did last night
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:16 PM
 
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Because being down 0-2 headed home is a lot different if you are 2 games away from elimination. The reds probably have given up like the Twins did last night
Ok, ok...NOW I get it.

You think it is easier for a worse team to win 4 out of 5 games than it is for a better team to win 2 out of 5 games.

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Old 10-10-2010, 02:31 PM
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Ok, ok...NOW I get it.

You think it is easier for a worse team to win 4 out of 5 games than it is for a better team to win 2 out of 5 games.


It's different when you know you are 2 games away from elimination because you have the opportunity to win your home games. Now the Reds have the same opportunity but it's a do or die game for game 3 instead of just game 3.
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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They can play FOUR 7-game series in 30 days, like they do in the regular season.
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Old 10-10-2010, 02:43 PM
 
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It's different when you know you are 2 games away from elimination because you have the opportunity to win your home games. Now the Reds have the same opportunity but it's a do or die game for game 3 instead of just game 3.
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Ok, ok...NOW I get it.

You think it is easier for a worse team to win 4 out of 5 games than it is for a better team to win 2 out of 5 games.
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Old 10-10-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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We are not making progress in developing the proper game quantity theory, so I think we should give a second look to Ghengis' ideas concerning leveling the field. The water buckets and hurdles might make for too many controversies. Will batted balls off a bucket or hurdle be in play or a dead balls? What about throws which hit these items? Will the buckets contain differing amounts of liquid, or will all runners, regardless of size and weight, be carrying the same load? And the hurdles? Same height for all whether you are a Dave Kingman type, or a Freddy Patek type?

There could be all sorts of ways to work this which involved less fuss and fewer hazards. The underdog team could be allowed four outs an inning in the inning of their choice, or could designate an inning when they are in the field where the opposition is retired after just two outs.

Or the favored team could be forced to play an inning of the opposition's choice with just two outfielders..or we could give that team a choice of having two outfielders or three infielders for the inning.

Or they could designate one game in a series where the underdog gets to use the DH, but the favorite does not.

The differences between a 100 win post season team and a 90 win post season team are not so great as we might imagine when they are applied to a five or seven game series. (If you apply their regular season winning percentages to five and seven game series, the 100 win team could be expected to win 3.08 games out of five, the 90 win team 2.78. In seven games, the 100 win team would be expected to win 4.32 of them, the 90 win team 3.89. So it would take several series between these teams for the favorite to enjoy a one full game odds advantage.) Because of this we do not want to go overboard with the handicaping of the favorite. The above extra advantages, even though applied to just one inning a game, or one game in a series, would probably be sufficient to even things out.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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The underdog team could be allowed four outs an inning in the inning of their choice, or could designate an inning when they are in the field where the opposition is retired after just two outs.

Or the favored team could be forced to play an inning of the opposition's choice with just two outfielders..or we could give that team a choice of having two outfielders or three infielders for the inning.

Or they could designate one game in a series where the underdog gets to use the DH, but the favorite does not.
The next question that has to be asked is, why is it necessary to screw around with the game to those extents? Who says there has to be a "level" field? Teams play well enough during the regular season to get into the playoffs--why not just let them compete to see who gets to advance to the Series? (I know, I know--that's so simplistic, it doesn't even merit a response. Then again, I'm from the dinosaur generation; we like baseball for being baseball, and the fewer gimmicks the better).

If MTV wants to produce a "Lingerie Baseball League" (as they're currently doing for football), fine. Everyone who wants gimmicks can watch that. But leave baseball alone.
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Old 10-11-2010, 08:53 AM
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The next question that has to be asked is, why is it necessary to screw around with the game to those extents? Who says there has to be a "level" field? Teams play well enough during the regular season to get into the playoffs--why not just let them compete to see who gets to advance to the Series? (I know, I know--that's so simplistic, it doesn't even merit a response. Then again, I'm from the dinosaur generation; we like baseball for being baseball, and the fewer gimmicks the better).

If MTV wants to produce a "Lingerie Baseball League" (as they're currently doing for football), fine. Everyone who wants gimmicks can watch that. But leave baseball alone.

Not difficult at all to win a title in baseball once you get into the postseaso. Not like that in the NFL, NHL, and NBA
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Old 10-11-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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You wants to see the same two teams in the WS every year? And isn't obvious they are there because they are not being challenged?
Gee, the Phillies and Yankees lost 65 and 67 games respectively in 2010, approximately 40% of their games. I would think teams that aren't being challenged would lose a lot fewer games than that.

Anything can happen in MLB's playoffs; that's been shown time and time again, from the 2006 Cardinals (83-78) winning three postseason series and a World Series and the 1973 Mets (82-79) winning the NLCS and extending the World Series to 7 games to the 2001 Mariners (116-46) losing in the ALCS. If a team is winning best-of-5 or best-of-7 series regularly, despite the strong possibility of being upset, maybe you need to tip their cap to them.

For whatever it is worth, there was only a 7 game difference in regular season record among the 8 MLB playoff teams this season (the Phillies' 97-65 record being the best and the Rangers' 90-72 record being the worst). This is the smallest gap between MLB playoff teams since the LDS was first played in both leagues in 1995. Additionally, unlike many seasons, the teams with the top 4 records in both leagues made the playoffs this year.
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