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This is a good illustration of what I have in mind. You telling me this won't save the house?
Probably not. The lava will just fill up the "moat" like so much water, and then as the berms that surround the lava flow grow higher, the level of the lava will grow higher, and you can say "Buh Bye"
There really isn't anywhere else for them to go. Puna is one of the least expensive places in Hawaii to live, if they could afford better they'd possibly already be somewhere else. Although, parts of Puna are really nice. Since the lava runs on 'geological' time where 'soon' can be within the next 100 years, it seems a worthwhile risk to many folks to build and live in Puna.
I suppose there's a lot less risk of lava on the mainland, but then you're on the mainland.
Were there any stories about people who could and did move their mobile or manufactured homes, and saved their homes from destruction? Or, are there zero mobile homes located in the high lava zone areas? If there are zero mobile or manufactured homes in the high risk lava zone, why are mobile or manufactured homes not used instead of conventional homes that cannot be moved?
Using mobile or manufactured homes seems like a "no-brainer" solution to the problem! The mobile or manufactured homes would be more affordable for the lower income people who's only affordable area to live is in the high lava risk areas, which are lower cost due to the high risk areas. The option to be able to move their homes should be a huge benefit to those people, who cannot afford a total loss of their homes, especially if the homes could not be insured because of the high insurance cost or the homes could not be insured due to the high lava risk. The ability to move their homes should also give those people huge peace of mind, and lower their stress, if they knew there was a high probability that there homes could be saved, and later re-located to an area that is not impacted by the lava flows.
Are there rules or regulations in Hawaii that forbid the use of mobile or manufactured homes? It should be possible to ship the components of mobile and manufactured homes to Hawaii by sea, after all, the components are shipped to Hawaii for large buildings in Hawaii by sea. Or, is it just no one ever thought of the idea of using mobile or manufactured homes in Hawaii?
There really isn't anywhere else for them to go. Puna is one of the least expensive places in Hawaii to live, if they could afford better they'd possibly already be somewhere else. Although, parts of Puna are really nice. Since the lava runs on 'geological' time where 'soon' can be within the next 100 years, it seems a worthwhile risk to many folks to build and live in Puna.
I suppose there's a lot less risk of lava on the mainland, but then you're on the mainland.
The mainland comes to mind where jobs and careers are plentiful. Then move to Hawaii with a couple $mil in the bank when you can do it right and not be a burden on others.
Were there any stories about people who could and did move their mobile or manufactured homes, and saved their homes from destruction? Or, are there zero mobile homes located in the high lava zone areas? If there are zero mobile or manufactured homes in the high risk lava zone, why are mobile or manufactured homes not used instead of conventional homes that cannot be moved?
Using mobile or manufactured homes seems like a "no-brainer" solution to the problem! The mobile or manufactured homes would be more affordable for the lower income people who's only affordable area to live is in the high lava risk areas, which are lower cost due to the high risk areas. The option to be able to move their homes should be a huge benefit to those people, who cannot afford a total loss of their homes, especially if the homes could not be insured because of the high insurance cost or the homes could not be insured due to the high lava risk. The ability to move their homes should also give those people huge peace of mind, and lower their stress, if they knew there was a high probability that there homes could be saved, and later re-located to an area that is not impacted by the lava flows.
Are there rules or regulations in Hawaii that forbid the use of mobile or manufactured homes? It should be possible to ship the components of mobile and manufactured homes to Hawaii by sea, after all, the components are shipped to Hawaii for large buildings in Hawaii by sea. Or, is it just no one ever thought of the idea of using mobile or manufactured homes in Hawaii?
If you are so poor as to have to go to such extremes, perhaps you shouldn't be in Hawaii in the first place. Earn it first, then move. JMO.
Or, are there zero mobile homes located in the high lava zone areas? If there are zero mobile or manufactured homes in the high risk lava zone, why are mobile or manufactured homes not used instead of conventional homes that cannot be moved?
There are no mobile home parks in any of the Hawaiian Islands, as they are illegal here. RVs are legal, but rare, as there are no parks for them, so no not much point. Whether or not mobile home parks SHOULD be legal is a reasonable question, given how the average home price on Oahu is around $800,000, and how, on the Big Island, Madame Pele likes to go swimming every now and then.
The reason for not permitting them are given as:
1) Keep jobs building homes here on the Islands
2) The land cost more than the home on top of it
3) We don't want to look any more like the mainland than we already do
Last edited by Lodestone; 06-30-2018 at 02:06 PM..
There are many available properties in Upper Puna which are lava zone 3. Not sure if it has changed but banks did conventional loans on this zone because it could easily be insured.
Im just not getting the reason why we should keep putting houses on active rift zones. It was a bad idea. There is no doubt it was a bad idea. Why is anyone considering doing it again?
There are many available properties in Upper Puna which are lava zone 3. Not sure if it has changed but banks did conventional loans on this zone because it could easily be insured.
Im just not getting the reason why we should keep putting houses on active rift zones. It was a bad idea. There is no doubt it was a bad idea. Why is anyone considering doing it again?
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