Boston College Vs Boston University (Andover, North Andover: school, subsidized, rich)

[Dm84]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Sorry, I'd need to see legitimate data that this is happening. I have a child at BU and this has not been our experience so far. BU is selective (29% admissions rate last year) and I'm sure many "brilliant domestic students" didn't make the cut.

BU had 60,000 applications last year. 22% of the incoming freshman class were international students, with China providing most of BU's international students. Do you really believe that there weren't any well qualified domestic students passed up for international students paying full tuition?

The statistics you want will never leave the admissions office, for good reason. However the New York Times has written several articles about the explosion of international students in US colleges.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Dm84

BU had 60,000 applications last year. 22% of the incoming freshman class were international students, with China providing most of BU's international students. Do you really believe that there weren't any well qualified domestic students passed up for international students paying full tuition?

The statistics you want will never leave the admissions office, for good reason. However the New York Times has written several articles about the explosion of international students in US colleges.

Why should the school pass up well qualified international students in favor of well qualified domestic students?

[Dm84]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Why should the school pass up well qualified international students in favor of well qualified domestic students?

A lot of these international students are not well qualified but are admitted because they can pay full tuition.

Regardless, at the end of the day as a private institution these schools can admit whoever they want.

[robr2]

Originally Posted by Dm84

BU had 60,000 applications last year. 22% of the incoming freshman class were international students, with China providing most of BU's international students. Do you really believe that there weren't any well qualified domestic students passed up for international students paying full tuition?

The statistics you want will never leave the admissions office, for good reason. However the New York Times has written several articles about the explosion of international students in US colleges.

For what's it's worth, BU is needs blind during the admissions process. My son goes to a school that is need aware during the application process yet gets about 50% in aid and has full pay and no pay classmates.

All colleges and universities need to balance the population, aid offered, full pay students, international versus domestic, etc. They can't accept every full pay student simply because it's better for them financially as they have to maintain their metrics in population and outcome.

Back in my day:

- BU seemed to draw more kids from out of state and the local kids that went there could have gone to similar out of state schools but wanted to stay local
- BC was for preps who could afford full pay
- Northeastern was the blue collar alternative to those schools for commuters and night school, not the case anymore.

[Sotsgreen]

They are locally both considered very comparable in terms of quality . There really aren't many people who make distinctions about what one is better. They have very different campuses and offer different degrees.

As other people here have mentioned, many schools like to take students that are not residents because they pay full tuition.

[Boston Shudra]

Northeastern!

But to answer the prompt, it's always seemed to me that BU is more popular than BC within the city whereas BC is more popular than BU in the suburbs.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Why should the school pass up well qualified international students in favor of well qualified domestic students?

My point exactly. The other post was making the assumption that the international students were "less qualified" based on perceived communication gaps when called upon in class.

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by Dm84

A lot of these international students are not well qualified but are admitted because they can pay full tuition.

Regardless, at the end of the day as a private institution these schools can admit whoever they want.

No idea why you believe that. I worked (at a grad level) at a school with a fairly significant international student component, and we didn't admit less qualified students just because they were from outside the country, and reviewing the applications was done in a need blind manner. The reviewers didn't even see the financial portions of the applications.

[Whatsnext75]

I used to think BC was more prestigious and harder to get into but now I think they are about the same. BU seems to more innovative with trying new things with online courses to attract a larger audience-basically reaching learners they wouldnt have before which can be good and bad I guess. BC just screams rich white people to me. Good looking athletic ones at that.

[Whatsnext75]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

BC is where mediocre upper-middle class white people go to think theyre hot s**t. most Bostonians respect people from BU a lott more. BC has got they're head so far up their own *ss its not even funny.

If they are mediocre they aren't getting into BC. I know top students who didnt get in. It's actually baffling and makes me wonder about their admissions process. Then I do know a few hockey players who received scholarships there and probably had a GPA of 2.0. But they still werent considered mediocre as they had the athletics thing going for them.