Boston crime thread - all posts go here. (Boston: 2014, legality)

[massnative71]

4 detained after Mattapan street shot up.


https://universalhub.com/crime/20210...ets-shot-early


Window hit by gunfire in JP project.


https://universalhub.com/crime/20210...et-development

[gunit00]

Originally Posted by msRB311

Where is the proof that George Floyd being killed was even an act of racism? People think anytime a black person is killed by someone white that it's racism.

You need to leave.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by gunit00

You need to leave.

I did.

[gunit00]

Originally Posted by msRB311

I did.

No. I was referring to this forum discussion.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by gunit00

No. I was referring to this forum discussion.

Dude that discussion is from a week ago.

[msRB311]

It's a public forum. No one needs to leave

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Good to see everyone in here is having fun. Lets see if we can drop a hat trick of hot takes on these issues:

(1) there is no evidence that race was a factor in George Floyd's death. There have been white people killed in almost identical fashion over the years

(2) the whole thing was arbitrarily chosen to become a global movement. Floyd's death was pretty bad, but just a drop in the bucket of messed up stuff that happens on a regular basis. It feels like such an insignificant and random choice to pick this one as catalyst for global change. Like do people realize what kinds of evil acts go on in the world that impacts millions instead of just a handful of people?

(3) That being said, remember when the video first came out and 100% of people on the right denounced Chauvin's actions unequivocally? Yeah what happened to that energy. Weird as it is to hype up some random act of minor evil as a focal point for a global protest movement, it's even weirder and worse to defend it as if nothing happened. All those evil acts that go on in the world and you want to shed tears over an abusive cop getting locked up? Pick a better hill to die on

This assumes the majority of the outrage is/was based in an 'us verse them' race issue (i.e., black men versus white cops).

My limited outrage in the Chauvin case had to do with his actions and the absolutely disgusting defense of his actions in right-wing media, which you highlight (wrongly ... it was never 100% as you suggest). Race wasn't really a factor. Similarly, I don't think it was at all accurate or necessary to paint Floyd as some Saint given his history and behavior at the time of arrest. Even if he was an absolute dirtbag, it was not Chauvin's job to play 'punisher' on the streets of Minneapolis ... this seems to be lost on many.

Yes, an odd hill to die on.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by Shrewsburried

This assumes the majority of the outrage is/was based in an 'us verse them' race issue (i.e., black men versus white cops).

My limited outrage in the Chauvin case had to do with his actions and the absolutely disgusting defense of his actions in right-wing media, which you highlight (wrongly ... it was never 100% as you suggest). Race wasn't really a factor. Similarly, I don't think it was at all accurate or necessary to paint Floyd as some Saint given his history and behavior at the time of arrest. Even if he was an absolute dirtbag, it was not Chauvin's job to play 'punisher' on the streets of Minneapolis ... this seems to be lost on many.

Yes, an odd hill to die on.

Excuse my ignorance, but what media defended his actions?

[msRB311]

I don't think chauvin intended to kill Floyd but he seemed insane the way he felt the need to kneel on him. I wouldn't restrain an out of control dog that way nevermind a person. It is hard to rationalize why he didn't just put him in the car or leave him in the car. He dragged him out of the car and knelt on him.

Those actions of chauvin don't make Floyd a better person though either. This case needs to go away. It's over and done with.

[Shrewsburried]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Excuse my ignorance, but what media defended his actions?

Breitbart and Tucker Carlson attempted play the "poorly handled, but not criminal" narrative from the very start ... Tucker kept to the narrative through the guilty verdict. In the interim, they kicked up lots of dirt which attempted to discredit Floyd as a victim.

That's not condemnation. As we got closer to a verdict, BFD's rhetoric (or whatever alias he's using these days) more or less captured the sentiment of the Twitter-sphere. Floyd was not a victim of Chauvin, just a low rent drug addict already on a terminal course. Pathetic really.