White Supremacist March in Boston (friendly, racist, race)

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

What are these far left hate groups?

By the way, before you think I'm applying a different standard, just imagine the number of 911 calls that would have been logged, and possible police brutality / overreaction, had that group been masked, militant-looking Black Americans marching through the tourist areas of Boston. The Patriot Front misfits got off very easy.

I'm not going down this road with you on this thread today. There is history and evidence of left-wing (and often violent) hate groups across the country right up to today. You just choose not to see it that way.

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

What are these far left hate groups?

By the way, before you think I'm applying a different standard, just imagine the number of 911 calls that would have been logged, and possible police brutality / overreaction, had that group been masked, militant-looking Black Americans marching through the tourist areas of Boston. The Patriot Front misfits got off very easy.

It used to be the Nation of Islam.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...p/nation-islam
Southern Poverty Law Center categorizes them as a hate group that's mostly anti-Semitic, but also Black nationalist and anti-LGBT - especially Farrakhan. BUT weather you think NOI is far left or left at all is up for debate. Farrakhan supported Jessie Jackson in 84, and Obama. But also DJT.

[bostongymjunkie]

NOI ain't the only one. By any stretch.

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by OutdoorLover

And, that message has clearly worked for them.

For who? Someone said earlier they have 250 members nationwide. They have been around for years and these stunts aren't really driving their numbers.
If you are talking about the GOP instead, yeah, they are taking advantage of it and this is really enabling them to retain many white working-class voters. Although that's not the only message of course otherwise they wouldn't be increasing their numbers among minorities.

[mdovell]

Doesn't bothers him for a number of reasons. They wore masks. In some states down south they actually have anti-mask rules because of KKK activity. The other thing they do is they made an emblem somewhat looking like a US flag but it's not. So you might not notice them as much especially post pandemic because we've been wearing masks for a while.

What they're probably trying to do is provoke a reaction which gives them propaganda footage to recruit new members. As hard as it is you have to not be provoked. Which reminds me about that Westboro Baptist Church that long ago I want to say 15 years ago they're almost going to March where I lived in the South Shore and literally everybody in town poured out. Employers allowed people to stand and watch a soldier's funeral procession, thankfully they didn't show up.

There's a bit of a packing order to the far right. Your pickup trucks with Confederate flags and KKK stuff is certainly racist but it's not nearly as intimidating as something that's more organized with uniforms and actively looking for funding and organization. One thing that should be looked at too is if it is religious. I can tell you that if you take any sort of extremist group that's one thing but once you start seeing people doing it because God told them to or they're defending something for God that's when you really should be concerned.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

And then there was this...

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...?p1=hp_primary

I respect free speech and the right to assemble for any group but the authorities ought to have had intelligence that such a march was taking place. They should have known that such a group would and could incite violence if agitated and that proper mechanisms should have been put in place to separate the marchers from onlookers. The City pretty much dropped the ball on this one and fortunately, aside from the one known incident in which that activist was assaulted and injured by the group, could have been a lot worse.

I don't like those low-lifes any more than you do but to be fair if a well-known black supremacist hate group is allowed to operate out in the open and even have their official clubhouse right in Boston and no one bats an eyelash their white equivalents should be treated similarly.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

And then there was this...

https://www.boston.com/news/local-ne...?p1=hp_primary

I respect free speech and the right to assemble for any group but the authorities ought to have had intelligence that such a march was taking place. They should have known that such a group would and could incite violence if agitated and that proper mechanisms should have been put in place to separate the marchers from onlookers. The City pretty much dropped the ball on this one and fortunately, aside from the one known incident in which that activist was assaulted and injured by the group, could have been a lot worse.

Prior to the Floyd protests in Minneapolis, "authorities" had been warned by the FBI, that White Supremacist extremists were planning to disrupt the event. LE knew, the mayor knew, and the state governor had been informed. Not only was nothing done, but police did not respond to a barrage of calls from neighborhoods near the protests, complaining of unmarked SUV's driving around dumping weapons caches in people's yards, and other issues. It was later discovered, that there were White Supremacist elements in the police force. After the protests, the head of the Minneapolis police union, a publicly-avowed White Supremacist, resigned from his post.

Similar situations occurred around the country. In Albuquerque, NM, when a local militia appeared on the scene of peaceful marches, police were overheard on police radio referring to the vigilante group as "armed friendlies". Because of the presence of those "friendlies", the police force took a partial day off from monitoring the march. At that time, the "friendlies" shot someone in the crowd, who lay in the street, bleeding, as police rushed to the scene, and proceeded to ignore the wounded individual, while surrounding the militia to protect them.

Investigations after the Floyd protests across the country revealed, that many police forces were infiltrated with White Supremacist elements. Was that issue raised locally in Boston? It would be worth looking into. Local authorities around the country had been warned by FBI in spring of 2020 and again prior to the Floyd marches, of the risk of extremist groups from the Right, who not only have a racial agenda but also are anti-authoritarian, anti-government, causing major mayhem. In cities where nothing was done to prepare for that and prevent it, it was usually because there was no will to do so, due to covert complicity within the authority structure.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

I'm not going down this road with you on this thread today. There is history and evidence of left-wing (and often violent) hate groups across the country right up to today. You just choose not to see it that way.

Whatever. You love having the last word, so today you have your wish.

[WestieWhitie]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Whatever. You love having the last word, so today you have your wish.

So are you saying 10 Washington St is just a mosque and Farrakhan&Co are just preachers?

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

So are you saying 10 Washington St is just a mosque and Farrakhan&Co are just preachers?

I'm going to similarly grant you your wish too, to have the last word.