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Old 09-04-2023, 02:40 PM
 
Location: western NY
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Then let's look at some real info that can be easily googled. 70% of immigrants were denied asylum by immigration judges - now even those denied just scoot across the border. There has been a 50% increase in gang members that have crossed the border - most of these were denied entry due to criminal records when we did background checks.

Canada is now choosing not to allow immigrants in - I posted the video in Politics and Controversies.

You have a rainbow and unicorn outlook where many of us would rather be vigilant as since people are coming across and not being checked - they can say anything and there is absolutely no way to verify that.

It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the whole barrel - pray you and yours don't encounter that bad apple because at this point I have little sympathy for people that choose to wear blinders.

The money spent on these illegals - no matter where they are sent - should be spent on addressing the problems we already have in the US be it housing, inflation, homelessness, drugs ect. I get sick seeing seniors in HUD housing dealing with whether to eat or buy their meds with the inflation occurring and here we are spending tax payer money - clothing, housing, educating and medically treating those who have illegally entered this country.
Well stated!
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Old 09-04-2023, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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You like going in circles I see. Just look at local examples of what the County Executive and the town of Cheektowaga has done.

Also, we have to be careful to make every asylum seeker look like a criminal, due to a few of them. With that said, if municipalities can’t handle in the influx at their level, then the Federal level really should be involved, if not from the beginning.
Great non answer as usual. Its easy to sit in your place of residence and write about the Federal level, who could care less. Its another thing to live next to one of these migrant hotels.
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Old 09-04-2023, 06:24 PM
 
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Great non answer as usual. Its easy to sit in your place of residence and write about the Federal level, who could care less. Its another thing to live next to one of these migrant hotels.
But you don’t. So, what is your point in all of this?

Also, leadfoot made a great point about said hotels, as many are seedy without asylum seekers. So, perhaps the issue is as much about the establishments they are staying in versus the asylum seekers as a whole.

As for the other post, you have zero clue as my view on this for one. Second, you should have been concerned about seniors, Veterans, those in concentrated poverty, etc. well before this, as that card should have been played a long time ago. Third, stop believing that this isn’t a bipartisan thing, as I already posted in a thread in the NYC forum that illegal immigration stayed flat in the previous administration and said person used undocumented immigrant labor at some of his properties. Which means that, regardless of party affiliation, they want said labor until it is time to say they don’t want it. Fourth, the fact that states that have been taking in said folks for a while are sending them further north illustrates that this is becoming a national problem and in turn, that is why Federal intervention should take place to address the issue.

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Old 09-04-2023, 06:53 PM
 
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But you don’t. So, what is your point in all of this?

Also, leadfoot made a great point about said hotels, as many are seedy without asylum seekers. So, perhaps the issue is as much about the establishments they are staying in versus the asylum seekers as a whole.

As for the other post, you have zero clue as my view on this for one. Second, you should have been concerned about seniors, Veterans, those in concentrated poverty, etc. well before this, as that card should have been played a long time ago. Third, stop believing that this isn’t a bipartisan thing, as I already posted in a thread in the NYC forum that illegal immigration stayed flat in the previous administration and said person used undocumented immigrant labor at some of his properties. Which means that, regardless of party affiliation, they want said labor until it is time to say they don’t want it. Fourth, the fact that states that have been taking in said folks for a while are sending them further north illustrates that this is becoming a national problem and in turn, that is why Federal intervention should take place to address the issue.
Boarder security is one of the VERY FEW responsibilities of the federal government and they are failing miserably.
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Old 09-04-2023, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Flahrida
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NYC is circling the drain and anyone that thinks this will not affect upstate is dreaming. Of course border states send people north, what else are they supposed to do. If the Federal government wants to ignore the problem the states have to take it upon themselves to show the rest of the country what is going on.
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Old 09-04-2023, 08:35 PM
 
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Both of those posts are proving my point about Federal intervention. If it really wanted to be stopped or at least done in a way with proper procedures, it could be done. The question that should be asked is if these are asylum seekers, why aren’t they processed in the same way as the Refugee resettlement program, which is also a Federal program? The reasoning behind both is pretty much the same and the infrastructure is in place in terms of Refugee resettlement. So, why not do the same for asylum seekers?

Keep in mind that Refugee resettlement is more spread out. Hence, the reason you find Bosnians in places like Utica, St. Louis, Waterloo IA and St. Petersburg FL; Hmong in the Twin Cities of MN, parts of the Detroit area and parts of CA; South Sudanese on the North Side of Syracuse, Des Moines IA, etc. This should be the way to go about this and it doesn’t put the burden on a handful of places.
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Old 09-05-2023, 05:47 AM
 
Location: western NY
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This should be the way to go about this and it doesn’t put the burden on a handful of places.
Not really...........the way to go about it, although now too late, is to close the border, in the first place. Now, round up all of these people, place them back on the busses that got them scattered all over the US, and transport them out of here.
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Old 09-05-2023, 06:59 AM
 
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Not really...........the way to go about it, although now too late, is to close the border, in the first place. Now, round up all of these people, place them back on the busses that got them scattered all over the US, and transport them out of here.
My point is that if they are really seeking asylum similar to refugees, then they should be processed similarly versus being passed to and for to select parts of the country.

Another thing with that is that one of the biggest aspects of illegal immigration is International college students overstayed their VISA. So, not all illegal immigration is about closing a border and that's it. There are other ways people enter the country illegally that don't get as much press. https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/68605...rder-crossings

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...nt-population/ (look at #4)
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Old 09-05-2023, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Flahrida
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My point is that if they are really seeking asylum similar to refugees, then they should be processed similarly versus being passed to and for to select parts of the country.

Another thing with that is that one of the biggest aspects of illegal immigration is International college students overstayed their VISA. So, not all illegal immigration is about closing a border and that's it. There are other ways people enter the country illegally that don't get as much press. https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/68605...rder-crossings

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...nt-population/ (look at #4)
What does any of this have to do with Buffalo? The government has no plan for immigration so the country as a whole will suffer. All of this is just a smoke screen for open borders and overwhelmed cities.
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Old 09-05-2023, 08:25 AM
 
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What does any of this have to do with Buffalo? The government has no plan for immigration so the country as a whole will suffer. All of this is just a smoke screen for open borders and overwhelmed cities.
Actually, in a way it does, as Buffalo is known for being a Refugee Relocation hub. so, why couldn't the same processes be used with asylum seekers that are here in the area? That is what I'm referring to, as if they are truly seeking asylum, they should be processed like refugees are. It also takes refugees at least 5 years to even apply for naturalization to become citizens. So, that is all I'm saying and the area actually has the infrastructure to do just that due to doing for years now.
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