California's budget still sucking wind (Los Angeles, Sacramento: for sale, loan, houses)

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by user_id

The state of the economy has everything to do with it. But the issue here isn't one of income, but rather economic activity. The donor states are facilitating job growth in the states receiving a net inflow of federal dollars, but this makes no sense if the donor states are creating jobs at a lower rate than the welfare states.

The federal government needs to adjust the flow of federal dollars to help stimulate state economies that are having trouble. But that isn't happening, why? Because this is being used as an opportunity to push the conservative agenda.

Are you also opposed to property tax money from "donor" districts being spent in "welfare" districts?

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by user_id

This would result in a huge stimulus to the California economy which would result in higher tax revenue for the state....the budget issues would be resolved almost over night.

But this isn't the way to do it, the federal government needs to spend more federal dollars in California. Open some new military bases, fund research at California universities, etc.

Well then maybe our worthless senatwhores should learn to work the system better.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

Are you also opposed to property tax money from "donor" districts being spent in "welfare" districts?

I'm not opposed to transferring wealth from the top to the bottom. If California's economy was doing well and creating jobs like it has in the past , it would make sense to transfer some of the job growth to poor conservative states. But that isn't the situation California finds itself in today, instead California has one of the highest unemployment rates and is creating jobs at a slow rate.

But this is being politicized, California is going to be allowed to burn so conservatives can "show" that liberal policies are bad. Of course, this will all back-fire....and everyone will be worse off but that will take awhile to materialize.

At this point, its hard to see how the US isn't going to revert to the feudal system... But hey, we'll see.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

Well then maybe our worthless senatwhores should learn to work the system better.

Work the system better? They are just 2 of them they are totally dominated by hillbillies from states that hardly produce anything.... This is a problem with the very structure of the federal government, not the efforts of our senators.

[bradleyyo]

Originally Posted by user_id

I'm not opposed to transferring wealth from the top to the bottom. If California's economy was doing well and creating jobs like it has in the past , it would make sense to transfer some of the job growth to poor conservative states. But that isn't the situation California finds itself in today, instead California has one of the highest unemployment rates and is creating jobs at a slow rate.

But this is being politicized, California is going to be allowed to burn so conservatives can "show" that liberal policies are bad. Of course, this will all back-fire....and everyone will be worse off but that will take awhile to materialize.

At this point, its hard to see how the US isn't going to revert to the feudal system... But hey, we'll see.

I already hear some republicans suggesting teachers be paid less and libraries be privatized because the private sector can handle everything. I understand we need to save money and stuff but not everything needs to be a freaking corporation. Conservatives think about money 24/7 and I just find it completely annoying.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by user_id

Work the system better? They are just 2 of them they are totally dominated by hillbillies from states that hardly produce anything.... This is a problem with the very structure of the federal government, not the efforts of our senators.

There's that open-minded, accepting, laid-back, non-judgemental California attitude again.

[user_id]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

There's that open-minded, accepting, laid-back, non-judgemental California attitude again.

Umm...huh? What planet are you on?

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by user_id

Work the system better? They are just 2 of them they are totally dominated by hillbillies from states that hardly produce anything.... This is a problem with the very structure of the federal government, not the efforts of our senators.

[yeahthatguy]

Originally Posted by user_id

The state of the economy has everything to do with it. But the issue here isn't one of income, but rather economic activity. The donor states are facilitating job growth in the states receiving a net inflow of federal dollars, but this makes no sense if the donor states are creating jobs at a lower rate than the welfare states.

The federal government needs to adjust the flow of federal dollars to help stimulate state economies that are having trouble. But that isn't happening, why? Because this is being used as an opportunity to push the conservative agenda.

Donor States ...


The govt. needs to give to California ...



Silicon Valley wouldn't be sh*t w/o the govt... The fact that its roots started here have everything to do w/ govt.
And here we go again w/ this donor state b.s...
Take your social security dollars/medicare that you accumulated while in California and go to a more tax/retirement friendly state in old age: Congratulations, you just caused the federal govt. to donate to another state.


Brilliant in-depth analysis .. There are 100s of such cases like this that destroy this 'donor' state crap. Devil's in the details and the usual crew is short on them...Which is why you have to just :

At this foolish parroting of the same garbage excuses over and over. Uncle Scrooge from ducktales could dump his whole vault of money on California and it still would manage to run a deficit... Can't fix stupid.
The state is broke and its govt. is a joke and when someone points that out you take them as a joke. So, enjoy it. There is no one to blame but the populous and California's govt. For every (quote/unquote) dollar California donates, it takes 4 more from the broader U.S through its largely offshored manuf'ing that allows its corporations to bleed margins the size of grand canyon out of products that it produces for pennies overseas and sells for dollars in the U.S. You want to talk 'fair' ? How about the federal govt. actually did its job and regulated this concept of 'free trade' and tarrif'd the snot out of the junk that these California companies keep importing into the U.S while destroying the broader economy here. You don't want to talk about a broad based fair or why things are the way they are for Corporations in California so please give this junk rhetoric a break about 'donor states'.

[ZhugeLiang]

Originally Posted by user_id

This is a problem with the very structure of the federal government, not the efforts of our senators.

A Barbara Boxer apologist, and I thought your posts couldn't be anymore ridiculous. Ideology doesn't play into it, Boxer is such a mark who's constantly getting fitted for a clown suit by her colleagues. It's called ineptitude. She has no leadership skill or influence whatsoever which is a considerable accomplishment given her time in Washington.

Originally Posted by user_id

The federal government needs to adjust the flow of federal dollars to help stimulate state economies that are having trouble. But that isn't happening, why? Because this is being used as an opportunity to push the conservative agenda.

LMAO, no. "Conservative agenda," where do you come up with this nonsense? Sure, all six or so Republicans in Sacramento, yeah they're definitely the problem with all the massive influence they wield. Most of California's problems are self-inflicted. This isn't debatable.