We really dodged a bullet with SB 350, Brown flips out. (car registration, custom home)

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by nslander

Yeah, New Mexico-

After the announcement—but before the plant could be built—California made a richer offer. Tesla promptly abandoned New Mexico. (The company now says it shifted its site because the New Mexico plan was unworkable.) In California, Tesla has received sales-tax exemptions, which it expects will save the company $90 million over a decade.

Inside Elon Musk's $1.4 billion score - Fortune

Of course, the company had previously postured about CA's reg climate, but they got over that after we promised them money.

Keeping more states in the game helps them drive up the price they got from Nevada. It is negotiating 101, saying California was back in it gave them more leverage over NV.

I'll leave this portion of the debate at this since we have strayed a bit from the OP. No one knows exactly what it would have taken California to end up with the battery factory. I'm siting Musk's comments as my point, others a communication director, all while tesla was trying to get the best deal (a deal which is more than just money, but also the ability to get up and running quickly)

[nslander]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

I'll leave this portion of the debate at this since we have strayed a bit from the OP.

I agree. In 'n Out rules.

[davidt1]

So the environmental nutjobs didn't get their way in this time?

[nslander]

Originally Posted by davidt1

So the environmental nutjobs didn't get their way in this time?

Not this time. The friendly folks at Western States Petroleum Association had a bake sale and selflessly donated $9 million dollars to score one for the people.

http://www.bizjournals.com/sacrament...rs-at-the.html

[Marv101]

Why Kevin DeLeon even supports this bill which would make life even worse in the impoverished East Los Angeles district which he represents is unconscionable.

Why do Democrats despise the middle class and continue to come up with ways to push more of them into poverty just because Tom Steyer wants them to?

Over 70% of the new cars sold in CA are imports which are very efficient, so when are Democrats going to stop worshipping at the altar of green and do the right thing for s change even if it means sacrificing their ideological fanaticism in a state with the nation's highest poverty rate alongside having 5 of the top 25 universities in the nation?

Why do Democrats have the little guy so much?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Marv101

Over 70% of the new cars sold in CA are imports which are very efficient, so when are Democrats going to stop worshipping at the altar of green and do the right thing for s change even if it means sacrificing their ideological fanaticism in a state with the nation's highest poverty rate alongside having 5 of the top 25 universities in the nation? Why do Democrats have the little guy so much?

oh I dunno..maybe some of the legislators remember what the LA skyline looked like in the 70's?

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

oh I dunno..maybe some of the legislators remember what the LA skyline looked like in the 70's?

And cars already produce substatially less pollution now the back then, yet we keep making regulations even stricter without any sort of cost benefit analysis.

Maybe it would help if people advanced their critical thinking beyond "I like clean air, the politicians says this will make air clean, therefor the regulation that will kill business and destroy the middle class are fine"

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by shooting4life

And cars already produce substatially less pollution now the back then, yet we keep making regulations even stricter without any sort of cost benefit analysis.

Maybe it would help if people advanced their critical thinking beyond "I like clean air, the politicians says this will make air clean, therefor the regulation that will kill business and destroy the middle class are fine"

that would make sense BUT for the fact that in 1970 there were half as many people in California as there are now. The smog regulations have to become more stringent as the population (and number of cars) increase just to prevent pollution from getting worse.

[shooting4life]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

that would make sense BUT for the fact that in 1970 there were half as many people in California as there are now. The smog regulations have to become more stringent as the population (and number of cars) increase just to prevent pollution from getting worse.

Then why does carb push endless regulation that doesn't actually reduce pollution? Not to mention how they continually changing the standards for older cars which disproportionately impacts the poor and middle class.

[bigdumbgod]

Originally Posted by Marv101

Why do Democrats have the little guy so much?

I dunno. Why do the Republicans have the rich guy so much?




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