Newsom eradicating sales of new gas powered cars by 2035 (Los Angeles: apartment complex, campers)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by done working

Let me get this straight = calif does not want nukes, going to outlaw natural gas, hate coal fired generation - where in the hell is the power going to come from? Methane from the dumps? nope they outlawed methane from cow farts so that wont work. Ahh they will want it from Northwest or east - how about bend over and smile when that day comes!

MAYBE A BIG FRICKING BATTERY THAT ELON WILL PROVIDE. Oh yea he moved out of state so i bet that will be cost effective.

I guess the RV parks and state campgrounds will be easy to get a spot since there wont be way to tow your 40 foot toy hauler.

I guess our goose is dead and cooked and everyone will just have to follow you to Texas, done.

By the way, the state parks certainly are burdened. What’s your solution so that 39.5 million people can bring their 40’ toy haulers out to play?

[davdaven]

The power goes out here pretty often. Throw in a hot day and the few people with a/c units is enough to shut down the whole town. I can't imagine our grid being able to support widespread adoption of electric cars. Thanks for nothing but wildfires and gas pipeline explosions, PG&E!

I don't know how anyone who lives in an apartment or some other location w/o dedicated parking is going to manage. Maybe CARB hopes everybody will drive down to the charge points they've installed at most of the Targets here in the Bay Area? I might have to join them since the cost of updating my house's electrical system and installing solar panels will probably run $50K, assuming I can even find an electrician (rare in the Bay Area).

I'm sure CARB is imagining some sort of Elon Musk circle j*rk utopia full of Teslas, but my guess is everybody will end up with a RAV4 plug-in hybrid. I guess I'm OK with that, except I'd probably get one too, and that means never finding my car in a parking lot again (LOL).

[Soujouner]

This is going to be entertaining to watch!

[cvarcher]

its another Californian dream .No one mentioned all the other global warming exhaust from all the military machines practicing ,blowing up things and cruising all over the globe. Rocket man keeps polluting the ocean with missiles as the skies get the rocket vapor.Dont think what Putin is doing isnt also contributing to the climate change. Nah, eliminating cars isnt going to cut it folks.

[V8 Vega]

Better get a gasoline powered generator now while you still can to be able to at least have one lightbulb, the refrigerator going and maybe charge your phone.

We already have higher electricity cost than most all other states and now it's going to really go up.

California a 3rd world country.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Mike from back east

Ruth, thanks for the kind words.

IIRC we have to modernize the grid anyway, so let's do it as part of this transition to EVs and renewables.

Lots of work for able-bodied men and women for decades to come.

When the air is finally clear Reagan's shining city on a hill won't be obscured by smog....

OK, I'm with ya, but in order to pull it off, the nation would have to elect a series of presidents dedicated to the project. All the rob-the-budget-for-tax-breaks candidates would have to lose every election between 2024 and the New Era you're proposing.

Also, tax revenues would have to be restored to something approximating 1980 levels or so.


I'm sure if we put our heads together, we can figure it out, though...

[NORTY FLATZ]

So, in 2035, California becomes the "new Cuba?"

(Unless we can get some extension cords from Mexico, that is...)

[movedintime]

I just don't see it happening. On paper or in a passing thought it sounds great and I wish it was. Agree with most posts so far, but can't help wondering about a few things other than "where is all the electricity going to come from"

1st, if electric cars are in the name of the Environment, I'm trying to imagine all the environmental damage that will be done to this planet while mining for all the materials needed. Didn't we already go through strip mining in the past ?

2nd, Even if Calif. can accomplish this, all the pollution caused by other countries is going to continue. Air pollution does not stop at the border.

Seems more like a giant money generator for someone than a solution to co2 on earth.

[Vision67]

California’s historic ban on gas-powered cars includes one major exception

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/...w-17398659.php

"But the rule includes a major exception: Car companies can keep selling some plug-in hybrid vehicles, which use gasoline in addition to electricity. That’s a departure from Newsom’s earlier pledge to require 100% zero-emissions vehicle sales.

Many environmentalists and some vehicle makers cheered the rule’s adoption. Others, however, called the exception for hybrid vehicles and other caveats an example of how the rules were watered down to provide more leniency for some automakers who’ve complained they aren’t ready for the transition.

The rule requires car companies to make sure that, by model year 2035, all new vehicles they sell in the state are fully electric models that do not produce greenhouse gas emissions or — alternatively — are the “cleanest-possible plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles.”

I wonder how much Toyota paid to get that exception.

[done working]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I guess our goose is dead and cooked and everyone will just have to follow you to Texas, done.

By the way, the state parks certainly are burdened. What’s your solution so that 39.5 million people can bring their 40’ toy haulers out to play?

Diesel trucks - like i have there will be plenty with the elec car fiasco lol.