Newsom eradicating sales of new gas powered cars by 2035 (apartment, condos)

[Finper]

I have some questions and don’t even think Newsom has the answers

I thought he loved gas tax money. How will they maintain the roads without it?
What would it do to car registration fees that already sky high?
What about people that live in condos and apartments without garages? How do they charge their cars?
Is Newsom planning on being governor in 15 years? Can he place a order and it will have to be enforced when he’s retired and living on his winery if he’s not run out of the state?
What about all the jobs related to gas?

I’m all for clean green living but don’t think it can happen 100% in our lifetime.

[Mike930]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

I'm in agreement there. We have 15 years to get the infrastructure upgraded and have the auto companies continue to innovate. Some studies are showing that in about 5 years, we'll reach a point where it'll be cheaper to manufacture electric vs gas powered vehicles.

You have more faith in the state to get the upgrades done than I do.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by Mike930

You have more faith in the state to get the upgrades done than I do.

I just don’t think we have a choice at this point

[saibot]

Good questions, especially this one:

Originally Posted by Finper

Is Newsom planning on being governor in 15 years? Can he place a order and it will have to be enforced when he’s retired and living on his winery if he’s not run out of the state?

In 15 years, either Newsom will have gone bye-bye or I will.

[sav858]

Originally Posted by roadwarrior101

People like yourself who are objecting to this type of green movement. If you think this is such an acute issue, maybe you should write a letter with your "grand plan" to your state representative, rather than shooting down all ideas for environmental improvement on CD? That would be a more effective way for you to 1 - vent your frustration and 2 - be part of the solution.

So it's up to individual citizens to spend their time and resources to correct the ineptitude of the people running this state because they don't know how to plan? We already pay them to do their jobs but apparently you don't think they should be doing them right? My god you have to be kidding me.

And I didn't shoot down the idea, I shot down how it was being done.

Or maybe people like you should actually think twice about voting for people who have no plan to actually implement these ideas and have screwed up so many other grand plans over and over.

[albert648]

Originally Posted by luv4horses

If you already own a gas powered vehicle in 2034 it's okay to use it. After 2035 it looks like only electric (?) would be sold.

But you can be sure that if there is not enough availability or something else changes the ruling would be adjusted.

So.....ICE car manufacturers will have record years in 2032, 2033 and 2034 in California as people madly rush to buy gas powered cars before they're banned...? Where does the $$$ come from for the extra power infrastructure and all the new charging stations that will now need to be as numerous if not more than gas stations? Unlike gasoline, electrical power is not easy to transport in the case of an emergency (e.g. your car dies in death valley....with a gas vehicle you call roadside assistance and they bring you a can of gas, you top up and off you go, with an electric car......can batteries be easily swapped out without heavy equipment?).

Also in electronic devices batteries are considered consumables - what's the life expectancy of the batteries on a Tesla and what's the cost to replace them?

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

Or maybe people like you should actually think twice about voting for people who have no plan to actually implement these ideas and have screwed up so many other grand plans over and over.

Can things be done better, sure. What is the alternative though? Please don't tell me that the Republican "plans" are better. What plans have the Trump administration put forth to address climate change? Seems like they only want to keep the economy rolling at all costs with no consideration for our futures.

[ZeApelido]

Originally Posted by sav858

And how do you expect to move all that energy and be able to deliver it? And what happens when the sun goes down? How do you expect to make up for the rapid drop off in electricity production?

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

Think how long it would take to travel across the US stopping for hours every few hundred miles to recharge somewhere.

Never fear folks, I can provide you some learnings of actually learning about this field that is essentially dependent on evolving battery technology.

It is no coincidence that this order came less than 24 hours after Tesla's "Battery Day" in which a series of new battery engineering technologies have been discussed - that improve vehicle energy density by 50% and reduce battery costs by 50%.

The new technology will almost certainly reduce supercharging times further - probably to around 10 minutes.

More importantly for California, the emergence of cost-effective batteries for grid stability and grid storage will work in beautiful synergy with solar and other renewable energy sources.

Not only is the grid going to grow and grow more solar-based, but massive battery deployment will allow solar to be used after the sun goes down and all that.

[ZeApelido]

Originally Posted by albert648

So.....ICE car manufacturers will have record years in 2032, 2033 and 2034 in California as people madly rush to buy gas powered cars before they're banned...? Where does the $$$ come from for the extra power infrastructure and all the new charging stations that will now need to be as numerous if not more than gas stations? Unlike gasoline, electrical power is not easy to transport in the case of an emergency (e.g. your car dies in death valley....with a gas vehicle you call roadside assistance and they bring you a can of gas, you top up and off you go, with an electric car......can batteries be easily swapped out without heavy equipment?).

Also in electronic devices batteries are considered consumables - what's the life expectancy of the batteries on a Tesla and what's the cost to replace them?

No. By then electric vehicles will be seen as vastly superior in many use cases anyways, and already be dominating sales.

People assuming battery technology is going to stay the same for the next years are going to be very wrong.

[Des-Lab]

Because.
He.
Can.

Who's gonna stop him?

A Republican?

In California?

WHAT Republican?

Few can deny that yes, the man has effectively become a dictator. But Californias politics being what it is, and as beloved and popular as he is..... Doesn't he still carry something like a 90% approval rating?

And I'm sure government and a few other hand picked exceptions will be exempted.