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Old 05-03-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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Texans and Arizonians will still claim their States are being overrun with massive numbers of Californians.
Its true, they are all over the place
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Old 05-03-2021, 11:52 AM
 
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San Francisco rents have dropped pretty significantly.
We were thinking of moving to the Sacramento area two years ago. When a checked a few months ago, rents had gone by 30%.

A friend that works up there said housing prices have skyrocketed because people from the Bay Area got tired of the expensive housing and pushed out to Sacramento. The pandemic made it worse since people can work from home and avoid the commute.

It’s anecdotal but lines up with what you’re saying.
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Old 05-03-2021, 01:53 PM
 
Location: California
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People ARE leaving the state though. Lot's of them. Folks cashing out to all cash buyers who either flip, move in, rent out while increasing their RE portfolios. And plenty of non homeowners leaving for places they hope to be homeowners. It's ridiculous to deny it but it's not as if the state is going to empty out. Lot's of starry eyed folks will find their way here, even if it's for the short term.
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Old 05-03-2021, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Its true, they are all over the place
There so many Californians moving to Idaho like I did that I don’t even get hassled for being a crazy Californian because everyone else is from there too
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Old 05-03-2021, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Maine
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People ARE leaving the state though. Lot's of them. Folks cashing out to all cash buyers who either flip, move in, rent out while increasing their RE portfolios. And plenty of non homeowners leaving for places they hope to be homeowners. It's ridiculous to deny it but it's not as if the state is going to empty out. Lot's of starry eyed folks will find their way here, even if it's for the short term.
Yep. Real estate photographer was at my place today taking the pictures. It’s going to be listed by the end of the week. Last Friday we closed on our amazing new home in rural Maine. End of June I am kissing this mess of a state goodbye and good riddance.
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Old 05-03-2021, 04:58 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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People ARE leaving the state though. Lot's of them.
Anecdotally, yes. One of our neighbors is moving to Nashville after a lifetime of living in southern California.
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Old 05-03-2021, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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There so many Californians moving to Idaho like I did that I don’t even get hassled for being a crazy Californian because everyone else is from there too
Truth! I was floored to find this, also!
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Old 05-04-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Anecdotally, yes. One of our neighbors is moving to Nashville after a lifetime of living in southern California.
Ben Shapiro? Lol
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Old 05-04-2021, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Default what happened to the people leaving "in droves?"

They were replaced by other people arriving in droves.
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Old 05-05-2021, 01:45 AM
 
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They were replaced by other people arriving in droves.
I believe that's true and explains what happened in California, maybe the best indicator of your theory might be moving company, realtor, title company, and RE lawyer business for the period. I mean, Sacramento must be counting real estate transactions or utility transfers in the state, right?

But that really doesn't explain why the Census shocked so many people, because for the last ten years we were constantly getting fed headlines saying "Californians are leaving in droves!" which while not technically incorrect, does not tell the whole story. Being from Illinois, I was "positive" the state was going to show a loss of at least a half-million people, whereas the Census only showed a 18K decline from 2010. So who made the "mistake"? Was it a failure of the "news" over the past decade, or was it the data estimates from government agencies like the Census' annual estimates via the "American Community Survey", or was it the 2020 survey itself which is incorrect? Supposedly, only about 67% of citizens return their documents. During Covid, I sure wouldn't have allowed a Census taker into my home, I simply wouldn't have answered the door. So how many "estimates" vs. actual counts were made? Is it a transparent process, which clearly separates self-reported data from what Census takers or data analysts estimated?

One thing that bothers me, is that there's huge financial and political motivation to pad the count. If the process is not transparent and verifiable (and is easy to "fudge"), people are more likely to manipulate it (kind of like elections, but that's a different thread).

Bottom line, I'm more than a little suspicious, and sure would like to be reassured what they reported was accurate, and what percentage of error is expected and tolerated. Note that it HELPED my state, but if it was not accurate (or worse, fraudulent), it is not a desirable outcome.

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