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Some do I agree - its certainly a two way street from what I can see and its sort of a feedback loop mixed with misunderstandings... We need a little less us verse them and a little more respect and understanding. These things are hard to achieve but not impossible. Some of the 'younger' generation claim that the old fogies in here are set in their ways yet I see almost the exact opposite....
Some do I agree - its certainly a two way street from what I can see and its sort of a feedback loop mixed with misunderstandings... We need a little less us verse them and a little more respect and understanding. These things are hard to achieve but not impossible. Some of the 'younger' generation claim that the old fogies in here are set in their ways yet I see almost the exact opposite....
And how exactly has Quebec "milked Canada for all it's worth"? Quebec receives less transfer payments per capita than many other provinces. And I don't see any example of Quebec receiving more than the others for any program. We often read this kind of uninformed statements, but it's never backed up by any substiantial facts...
Here's the numbers. I'm bad at numbers, but it can someone clarify the information in this link.
On the surface it looks like Quebec is 6th in reliance of transfer payments with 27 percent of it's revenue's being these payments?? Compared to B.C. at 13 percent.
Here's the numbers. I'm bad at numbers, but it can someone clarify the information in this link.
On the surface it looks like Quebec is 6th in reliance of transfer payments with 27 percent of it's revenue's being these payments?? Compared to B.C. at 13 percent.
This is good info but it's not indicative of any special treatment for Quebec. It's all based on calculated formulae. If Quebec's situation changes one way or another, it will get more or less money, just like any other province.
Now of course this is something Ignatieff said a long time ago, and while he may be right or he may be wrong, it's not especially relevant. But there is something I'd like to ask.
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Originally Posted by limelightkid
The emotional bonds that once existed between French and English Canada are all but gone.
I don't know if that's something Ignatieff actually did, or if it's the OP's interpretation, but I do wonder: are the emotional bonds between French and English Canada really in any way different now than they ever were? Personally I don't think they've changed much, but I'd like to see what people think.
Now of course this is something Ignatieff said a long time ago, and while he may be right or he may be wrong, it's not especially relevant. But there is something I'd like to ask.
I don't know if that's something Ignatieff actually did, or if it's the OP's interpretation, but I do wonder: are the emotional bonds between French and English Canada really in any way different now than they ever were? Personally I don't think they've changed much, but I'd like to see what people think.
That's a very good question. On the one hand it might just be Iggy being nostalgic and only remembering the good (or better) stuff about the past.
Certainly there is less anti-Canadian sentiment in Quebec than there was 10-20-30 years ago. Few people in Quebec recoil at the word "Canada", something which was an observable phenomenon in some circles when I was a kid.
This does not mean that they have more or less ties with the ROC though. It's not really related.
Again, this is not necessarily a loosening of ties. In the old days when people in Quebec considered themselves to be "Canadien", they didn't necessarily have the same "Canada" or "Canadiens" in mind than people in Listowel or Red Deer did.
It might all be a question of plus ça change, plus c'est pareil.
Some do I agree - its certainly a two way street from what I can see and its sort of a feedback loop mixed with misunderstandings... We need a little less us verse them and a little more respect and understanding. These things are hard to achieve but not impossible. Some of the 'younger' generation claim that the old fogies in here are set in their ways yet I see almost the exact opposite....
Talk about brainwashed. Why not take England and France and stick them together, and then when they still see each other as different complain about people having an us vs. them mentality. It's just a fact that you have more in common with a person in Hawaii or Florida than Quebec. The most naive Canadians are the ones who know nothing about Quebec and stay happily separated from them in every facet of life except for seeing French on packaging.
Again, this is not necessarily a loosening of ties. In the old days when people in Quebec considered themselves to be "Canadien", they didn't necessarily have the same "Canada" or "Canadiens" in mind than people in Listowel or Red Deer did.
I thought of this, but yes, back when francophones referred to themselves as "Canadiens", this word did not include anglophones in their mind. And in any case anglophones did not yet typically identify as Canadian.
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