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Old 01-28-2018, 12:17 PM
 
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I swear I saw more English signs outside of Montreal and in the Eastern Townships but I guess you can't compare a rural/suburban strip mall to the core of a major city. Still, I as an American find it humorous to find a "PFK" (Poulet Frite Kentuckie) sign rather than a KFC sign up in Quebec.
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You don't have to be American to find PFK humorous. I do. To me, it's bureaucracy gone made. I mean come on...even in France they don't do that.
KFC goes by PFK by choice, not because of language laws ...
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I think this is pretty spot-on.

Another thing is that even if the anglo business barons of Montreal had been able to continue to dominate Montreal, the massive francophone lumpenproletariat wasn't going away anytime soon.

They'd always have them in them in their midst and have to deal with them socially and politically.

I don't want to make them sound too odious but the reality is also that anglos (especially at that time) preferred to be around other anglos.

Toronto offered an opportunity to live like that and that's probably one of the reasons many of them started leaving for that city - to get away from the "French problem".

Again, I don't want to make them sound super-odious. It's human nature, and certainly was part of the ethos of the era.
Self-segregation/enclaves of minorities aren't unusual anywhere, surely? I'm not sure what you mean by odious in this context since you also say it's human nature. People naturally gravitate to what they are familiar with, sometimes it's helped along by society as in the bloc settlements in the west. I seem to recall that Floridians complain about Quebeckers sticking together, and also that the Brits stick together in Spain, etc. And certainly the French here didn't stick together less than any other ethnic group.

Just having lived in foreign countries, I know it's really hard and a person really has to make an effort to build relationships with another group. I know it's different from holiday segregation or expat communities in that the francophones and the anglophones are both bred and born Canadians, but I do understand how it is way easier to go with what you know.
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Old 01-28-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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KFC goes by PFK by choice, not because of language laws ...
Sort of by choice,i believe they just wanted to avoid an inevitable backlash from linguistic fundamentalists and a government dead set on eliminating all aspects of the English culture in the province = Big retailers taking French sign battle to Quebec court - Montreal - CBC News
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Old 01-28-2018, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I wonder if there has ever been a movie or TV series about the struggles of French Canadians..
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Old 01-28-2018, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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KFC goes by PFK by choice, not because of language laws ...
...and do you think they would of made that choice if it weren't for the language laws? If so, then they would most likely be PFK in the rest of the French speaking world.
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Old 01-28-2018, 02:29 PM
 
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I wonder if there has ever been a movie or TV series about the struggles of French Canadians..
A Film About Quebec
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Old 01-29-2018, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I wonder if there has ever been a movie or TV series about the struggles of French Canadians..
The film Jambo suggested is actually pretty interesting.


There is no shortage of films about these specific aspects of Quebec history. Quebec is a pretty "comprehensive" society - so if it exists, there's a Québécois version of it.
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Old 01-29-2018, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Here is one with English subtitles:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWsQZnstuoE
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:02 AM
 
Location: East Coast
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...and do you think they would of made that choice if it weren't for the language laws? If so, then they would most likely be PFK in the rest of the French speaking world.
Maybe, maybe not. Burger King and Bulk Barn and Canadian Tire and a host of other large chains have no problem keeping their English name despite the language laws ...
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Flawduh
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Maybe, maybe not. Burger King and Bulk Barn and Canadian Tire and a host of other large chains have no problem keeping their English name despite the language laws ...
I'll just leave this here:

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