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t. This absolutely is the kind of protest that you can go in there and tear gas them and disperse them. Pump teargas into the area until the protesters leave, then remove the vehicles. Yes it would take some time, but at the rate this is going they have plenty of time.
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That is exactly what would of happened had it been any other group.
I thought the 911 thing was weird too, but it is possible. Hackers have been able to SWAT people long distance. A few years ago there was a game streamer in California who tried to SWAT another gamer in Oklahoma. He was able to make the 911 dispatcher in Oklahoma believe that he was there. Unfortunately he sent the cops to some random home, not the person he intended, where they shot and killed an unarmed person. The police tracked the caller down and he was eventually convicted of murder, the cop who fired the shots was not. Go figure, but that's another story.
My understanding is that 911 is just a virtual phone number, that the phone company will direct to the real emergency number for the nearest police department dispatcher, or communications center. From there the dispatcher, will either dispatch police via radio, or will forward the call to the Fire Department, Ambulance Service or even to another Police Dispatcher, if the incident is not in their jurisdiction. Normally it would just be to a neighboring police department, but they probably have access to a master list of all the emergency numbers in North America. So it's entirely possible that a 911 operator in Boston could transfer a call to the Ottawa police. Though normally they would stay on the line and tell the Ottawa Police Dispatcher where the call is coming from.
But again hackers have other ways of doing it. I'm not exactly sure how, but that type of thing has been a problem for some time.
I can see how some can make their number look like it's somewhere else, but that doesn't mean they have access to 911 in another area. However that's not the issue. The police said they knew significant calls were made either from the US, or with US numbers. I'm assuming the numbers were US.
Someone calling from the US into Ottawa's 911 dispatch office directly means hacking into what? The phone companies 911 database? The 911 dispatch office? Sounds extremely difficult and a lot of time and energy.
I had to look up swatting. I can't find anything on out of area 911 call swatting. If you have a link?
The Oklahoma story, again if you have a link. It might have a clue as how he was able to get 911 out of his area. I really have my doubts though.
911 dispatch offices do not have access to all emergency numbers in the US and Canada. This is a US article, but it applies to Canada as well.
If you notice the article states
"The dispatcher will first need to find out which county and town your loved one lives in and then locate the 10-digit phone number for that PSAP from the local directory. Only then can the dispatcher transfer the call and connect you with the team who can help."
However, as I pointed out, local directories list 911 as the emergency number. All they can do is connect you to a non-emergency number.
Reading that article, everything about the way it's written and what it says about the Canadian response... feels just like 2016 USA. People wringing their hands, too paralyzed with fear to truly combat the problem. Way too much respect and deference being given to terrorists, including going along with their narrative that they are "protestors" who actually have a cause other than their own delusions of grandeur.
I can see how some can make their number look like it's somewhere else, but that doesn't mean they have access to 911 in another area. However that's not the issue. The police said they knew significant calls were made either from the US, or with US numbers. I'm assuming the numbers were US.
Someone calling from the US into Ottawa's 911 dispatch office directly means hacking into what? The phone companies 911 database? The 911 dispatch office? Sounds extremely difficult and a lot of time and energy.
I had to look up swatting. I can't find anything on out of area 911 call swatting. If you have a link?
The Oklahoma story, again if you have a link. It might have a clue as how he was able to get 911 out of his area. I really have my doubts though.
911 dispatch offices do not have access to all emergency numbers in the US and Canada. This is a US article, but it applies to Canada as well.
If you notice the article states
"The dispatcher will first need to find out which county and town your loved one lives in and then locate the 10-digit phone number for that PSAP from the local directory. Only then can the dispatcher transfer the call and connect you with the team who can help."
However, as I pointed out, local directories list 911 as the emergency number. All they can do is connect you to a non-emergency number.
Reading that article, everything about the way it's written and what it says about the Canadian response... feels just like 2016 USA. People wringing their hands, too paralyzed with fear to truly combat the problem. Way too much respect and deference being given to terrorists, including going along with their narrative that they are "protestors" who actually have a cause other than their own delusions of grandeur.
Reading that article, everything about the way it's written and what it says about the Canadian response... feels just like 2016 USA. People wringing their hands, too paralyzed with fear to truly combat the problem. Way too much respect and deference being given to terrorists, including going along with their narrative that they are "protestors" who actually have a cause other than their own delusions of grandeur.
One difference is that Americans were voting for a new President in 2016 and there were only two viable parties. In Canada the next Federal Election may not be held until October 2025. In a minority government situation, the NDP (further left than the Liberals) is a lot more comfortable supporting/propping up the Liberal Party than the Conservative Party.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Conservative Party is pulled apart before 2025. They can’t please both the centrist voters and the far right elements attracted to the PPC.
I also suspect that Trudeau might retire which could improve Liberal chances of winning again.
Edited to add: Last summer it seemed like most Canadians, including myself, were annoyed that Trudeau called an election, only two years into his term, in the middle of a pandemic. Considering what is going on now, I’m very glad he did.
Here's another wrinkle for these guys. Not just the organizers but all who risk being charged with something related to their lack of co-operation with injunctions and orders to disband their blockades. NEXUS passes. They can be withdrawn at the whim of EITHER border control entity.
Should they be merely arrested long enough to be charged. Guess what the first question is if applying for a re-instatement or renewal of a Nexus pass: "have you ever been arrested" - nothing about actual conviction but merely "arrested".
Now even if denied a Nexus re-instatement or renewal and still choosing to report to the border to cross with a load without one and asked to show their documents at the kiosk on the American side - guess what's going to show up on that small screen and guess what's very likely to happen when it does - " I'm very sorry; I'm denying you entry. Take that lane over there to the other side of the bridge to return to Canada." - there goes his future crossing possibility for FIVE years as the first question when he shows up again will be: "have you ever been denied entry and he'd better dang well not lie on that one because that 'lil computer knows all and the agent is fully aware of his COMPLETE history, including a wart removal from between his shoulder blades in high school.
These guys are risking a lot over just some of their number choosing a HARMLESS vaccination as their hill to die upon.
They are being especially foolhardy if they're part of the 85% fully vaccinated with no dog in this silly carnival hunt.
I was just reading about Trudeau’s speech today. In line with your comments, he said,
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authorities are prepared to hit protesters where it hurts the most by suspending commercial trucking licenses and pursuing charges that could result in jail time. He also warned that criminal sanctions could be levelled that would stop the protesters from ever travelling internationally again.
I assume suspending trucking licenses would only affect Ontario truckers but criminal sanctions would affect all truckers and other protestors. It’s not just affecting travel to the U.S. either. Criminal sanctions would affect ability to visit other countries.
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