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Old 06-04-2010, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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Oh...and there are MANY top rated schools? Many? Really...?

Compared to the North its not worth trying to compare. From what I have heard if you want a top school prepare to shell out the money you saved on taxes...

Actually jp, Charlotte has some of the best public schools in the state.

Some are even ranked nationally.

Of course, since we are also the largest city in the state and have the highest degree of social ills, we also have some failing schools. Even so, many of our schools are doing a very good job.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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"From what I have heard if you want a top school prepare to shell out the money you saved on taxes..."

If the money you saved on taxes is enough to pay for private school in Charlotte, than you make enough for private schools in Charlotte!
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Union County
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Oh...and there are MANY top rated schools? Many? Really...?

Compared to the North its not worth trying to compare. From what I have heard if you want a top school prepare to shell out the money you saved on taxes...
Yes - sorry if you "heard" different... opinions are like <stuff> everyone has one.

BTW - where are these vaunted schools in the "North"?

What's really funny about these attitudes is that NC has some of the better universities in the nation (to which nobody will really argue). Yet, they're "too dumb" to educate Elem / Middle / and HS kids.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:29 PM
 
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Yes - sorry if you "heard" different... opinions are like <stuff> everyone has one.

BTW - where are these vaunted schools in the "North"?

What's really funny about these attitudes is that NC has some of the better universities in the nation (to which nobody will really argue). Yet, they're "too dumb" to educate Elem / Middle / and HS kids.
Heh..if you want to compare the schools in N.C. to Connecticut...you go right ahead. University-wise N.C. is right near the top.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:32 PM
 
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Actually jp, Charlotte has some of the best public schools in the state.

Some are even ranked nationally.

Of course, since we are also the largest city in the state and have the highest degree of social ills, we also have some failing schools. Even so, many of our schools are doing a very good job.
I don't consider the schools here poor. They are average which does not compare to most schools in CT....Of course there are high rated schools here, but overall it does not compare. Honestly it shouldn't given the tax difference. The Northeast has more funds to offer better educations. Truthfully, kids get out of school what they put into it and as long as they are not being taught terribly, they will succeed if an effort is made.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Union County
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I don't consider the schools here poor. They are average which does not compare to most schools in CT....Of course there are high rated schools here, but overall it does not compare. Honestly it shouldn't given the tax difference. The Northeast has more funds to offer better educations. Truthfully, kids get out of school what they put into it and as long as they are not being taught terribly, they will succeed if an effort is made.
It's not the tax difference getting "better" education... you're being taxed to support the insane salary / benefits / pensions that are (or were once) commonplace up there. Paying 12k+ in taxes does not equate to getting better teachers, you're just trying to make up for all those retired teachers to keep their lifetime benefits and poorly performing pension funds. 400k+ annual salary for a superintendent of a district?!

I think you missed the point entirely of my previous post. You can be snide and giggle, but the truth is you are not getting value for the education in most towns up "North". Ratings are entirely subjective even beyond that.

I won't argue that certain areas in the North offer top notch public education (even top in the nation), but we're talking some of the most elite of areas... However, your "average" performing school there is equaled (or bettered) by a top performing school in NC. This is the research and investigation that everyone should be doing prior to a relocation.

You can't throw a dart at any town in the North and magically get the best public education... taxes cannot be your indicator.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:40 PM
 
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It's not the tax difference getting "better" education... you're being taxed to support the insane salary / benefits / pensions that are (or were once) commonplace up there. Paying 12k+ in taxes does not equate to getting better teachers, you're just trying to make up for all those retired teachers to keep their lifetime benefits and poorly performing pension funds. 400k+ annual salary for a superintendent of a district?!

I think you missed the point entirely of my previous post. You can be snide and giggle, but the truth is you are not getting value for the education in most towns up "North". Ratings are entirely subjective even beyond that.

I won't argue that certain areas in the North offer top notch public education (even top in the nation), but we're talking some of the most elite of areas... However, your "average" performing school there is equaled (or bettered) by a top performing school in NC. This is the research and investigation that everyone should be doing prior to a relocation.

You can't throw a dart at any town in the North and magically get the best public education... taxes cannot be your indicator.

I'll take an "average "city in CT and its better than the average here..the numbers prove it man..I'm not making this stuff up.

As for where the taxpayer money goes...I agree with you /....
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:10 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I'll take an "average "city in CT and its better than the average here..the numbers prove it man..I'm not making this stuff up.

As for where the taxpayer money goes...I agree with you /....
Is Hartford or New Haven an example of an "average city"? I suspect test scores in places like that might not even be be as high as Charlotte's. But Greenwich wouldn't be "that average", I suppose either!
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:17 PM
 
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Is Hartford or New Haven an example of an "average city"? I suspect test scores in places like that might not even be be as high as Charlotte's. But Greenwich wouldn't be "that average", I suppose either!
Great..you picked the 2 poorest cities in the state besides Bridgeport...try again

I cannot believe you are trying to argue that N.C. has schools as highly rated as CT...do i have to go dig out some national ratings now?
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Old 06-04-2010, 09:42 PM
 
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I hear those new england schools are great. Only bummer part is you have to live in New England.

Oh well.
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