Rogers Park Housing Trends--poor people leaving? (section 8, apartment complexes, rent)

[czaharoff]

What trends do you see in RP housing developments? Is the neighborhood gentrifying? Please comment.

If you had to leave RP because the rent is too high, or know someone in a related situation, make a post or shoot me an email at cnzaharoff@gmail.com

[Aleking]

Rogers Park is reverse gentrifying...along with uptown it was the most impacted northside hood by the housing bubble and decades away from appreciation and displacement.

[Chi-town Native]

zoom in, the numbers don't lie:

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[Lookout Kid]

I've lived in Uptown for 8 years, and it has actually continued to improve during the housing downturn. The most dramatic improvements have been commercial in the form of new restaurants and businesses, but we have also seen the closure of multiple "problem buildings". The neighborhood has not gotten any worse, in spite of the housing market collapse. It's not like condos are being rented out as low-income housing--they are just rented out to people in their twenties.

I haven't noticed much change in Rogers Park, but there were some widely publicized abandoned condo developments up there at the beginning of the "Great Recession". It seems pretty stable to me now, however... But I don't live there.

[Marat]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

zoom in, the numbers don't lie:
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I love that site! Thanks for sharing it. It is very helpful to visualize the way places change in short distances in cities.

[Larry Siegel]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

zoom in, the numbers don't lie:

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The numbers don't lie, but they do require some context. For example, the apparent pocket of poverty in southeast Rogers Park is the Loyola area, which has a very large number of students who bring the median family income down but are basically middle to upper middle class people, and the area is safe. The apparent pocket of poverty (which is less poor statistically, colored a less deep shade of red) in northeast Rogers Park is real, and is probably the most dangerous area on the whole North Side.

[Jandur]

Originally Posted by Chi-town Native

zoom in, the numbers don't lie:

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Today I learned: I'm rich. Yet oh-so poor.

[Chi-town Native]

Originally Posted by Larry Siegel

The numbers don't lie, but they do require some context. For example, the apparent pocket of poverty in southeast Rogers Park is the Loyola area, which has a very large number of students who bring the median family income down but are basically middle to upper middle class people, and the area is safe. The apparent pocket of poverty (which is less poor statistically, colored a less deep shade of red) in northeast Rogers Park is real, and is probably the most dangerous area on the whole North Side.

That's an interesting point. But, I'm not sure it's 100% true. It would depend on college students completing the census forms in that fashion, instead of where their parents live (and often where they still are registered to vote, have car insurance, etc).

I did find interesting that going east on the North side, the shades get deeper red, until you get to maybe Halsted, then even in Lake View they start trending yellow. Smaller, cheaper units in the high rises perhaps? Subsidized housing? This could also be what's happening in Rogers Park, there are a lot of older apartment complexes with very reasonable rents due to their proximity to the noise of the Red Line tracks. Also a lot of section 8, from what I remember when I lived up there (in the now fancy-pants Farcroft building on Fargo).