Does Cabrini Green Still Exist to ANY Extent? (Chicago: crimes, homes)

[Tat2d Bald Dude]

With the sparsely-occupied row houses that are still there, is it a totally opposite story as far as being safe there than it was in, say, 1991 or is it actually still dangerous enough to garner a response of "Oh, no, I still wouldn't be caught dead walking by the row houses at 10:00 on Saturday night if I were you!"?

[jonnynonos]

Originally Posted by Tat2d Bald Dude

With the sparsely-occupied row houses that are still there, is it a totally opposite story as far as being safe there than it was in, say, 1991 or is it actually still dangerous enough to garner a response of "Oh, no, I still wouldn't be caught dead walking by the row houses at 10:00 on Saturday night if I were you!"?

There is still a fair amount of drug dealing. The cops are parked outside often, they watch people come in and out and know why but apparently can't do a lot about it. At least that is what a guy I talked to once coming out of there told me. (I see the cops myself.)

Of the 20 homicides that have occurred on the Near North side since 2007, that is undoubtedly the hottest locust of homicides, with about half of them occurring at Cabrini.

You can walk by them down Chicago at all hours, but it is very sketchy late at night, and I go out of my way to avoid it usually, very late at night (like say 1AM on a Sunday), a bunch of people are just hanging out on the lawn in front of the entrance for no good reason. Same story down Oak. There is basically a giant fence, almost like a prison camp, along the west and eastern borders, so it's not the same.

One time about 10 years ago I drunkenly gave some of the winos hanging out at the liquor store on Larabee and Oak some money coming home from a party near 600 N. Chicago and turned east down Oak and they rose up in a giant chorus yelling "Don't walk that way!"

It's far safer now but if you walked down it real late at night by yourself, most people would still probably consider that fairly risky.

[Tat2d Bald Dude]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

There is still a fair amount of drug dealing. The cops are parked outside often, they watch people come in and out and know why but apparently can't do a lot about it. At least that is what a guy I talked to once coming out of there told me. (I see the cops myself.)

Of the 20 homicides that have occurred on the Near North side since 2007, that is undoubtedly the hottest locust of homicides, with about half of them occurring at Cabrini.

You can walk by them down Chicago at all hours, but it is very sketchy late at night, and I go out of my way to avoid it usually, very late at night (like say 1AM on a Sunday), a bunch of people are just hanging out on the lawn in front of the entrance for no good reason. Same story down Oak. There is basically a giant fence, almost like a prison camp, along the west and eastern borders, so it's not the same.

One time about 10 years ago I drunkenly gave some of the winos hanging out at the liquor store on Larabee and Oak some money coming home from a party near 600 N. Chicago and turned east down Oak and they rose up in a giant chorus yelling "Don't walk that way!"

It's far safer now but if you walked down it real late at night by yourself, most people would still probably consider that fairly risky.

It was still fully dangerous 10 years ago in 2003? I thought the danger around Cabrini Green pretty much came to a screeching halt around 1999 or 2000. Or at the very latest, when the towers were vacated. Haven't the main towers been gone quite a while? When was the last year that the Towers were still up and Cabrini Green was still very much in its' prime as being the most dangerous projects?

[McNick]

Nope it does not exist. The former residents have moved south and are enjoying trashing the south suburbs

[nana053]

The last tower was demolished in 2011. The towers were closed and vacated by 2008.

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[noid_1985]

Originally Posted by jonnynonos

There is still a fair amount of drug dealing. The cops are parked outside often, they watch people come in and out and know why but apparently can't do a lot about it. At least that is what a guy I talked to once coming out of there told me. (I see the cops myself.)

So are they building cases or what? What do they mean they can't do a lot about it? These people are committing real crimes yet they want to pull you over for "suspecting" you did something

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by McNick

Nope it does not exist. The former residents have moved south and are enjoying trashing the south suburbs

Yes, it does. The towers were demolished, but people still live in the row homes. Here you go. This is from one month ago:

Cabrini-Green residents sue CHA over renovated units | abc7chicago.com

[Tat2d Bald Dude]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Yes, it does. The towers were demolished, but people still live in the row homes. Here you go. This is from one month ago:

Cabrini-Green residents sue CHA over renovated units | abc7chicago.com

How close were these to, say, the red tower and white tower? And where are these even located? (Sorry, those questions may be one in the same).

[marothisu]

Originally Posted by Tat2d Bald Dude

How close were these to, say, the red tower and white tower? And where are these even located? (Sorry, those questions may be one in the same).

Not familiar with the towers, but if you go down Chicago avenue west towards 600 W Chicago, it's a little before that to the East, say between Hudson Ave and Cambridge Ave and a little north of Chicago Ave there and north to Oak Street.

[McNick]

Originally Posted by marothisu

Yes, it does. The towers were demolished, but people still live in the row homes. Here you go. This is from one month ago:

Cabrini-Green residents sue CHA over renovated units | abc7chicago.com

The point is that as soon as the projects were torn down, crime dramatically increased in the southern suburbs and school test scores declined as well.