Chicago more like 3 biggest East Coast cities OR 3 biggest Midwest cities (Evanston: quality of life, living in)

[g500]

Chicago peer cities currently are NY and LA. Top tier.

Philadelphia, Boston, Detroit are/were peers for historical reasons.

[IrishIllini]

Originally Posted by Tex?Il?

Whenever Chicago has to compete with coastal cities/metro areas, then all of the sudden Chicago is part of the midwest in defensiveness opposition to "coastal elites" or whatever but when talking about within the midwest, Chicagoans don't give any credit or respect to other midwest cities/metro areas.

No, Tex, this is not true. Many Chicagoans vacation in Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin. Many attended Big Ten schools in Iowa and Indiana. I would say Ohio is probably the only Midwestern state Chicagoans don't have a fondness for, and that's mainly because many don't spend time in Ohio. It's no secret Chicago is in a different league than every other Midwestern city, but you rarely see Chicagoans berating anywhere in the Midwest like people on the coasts.

There is some bad blood between Illinois and Indiana, but most don't get too caught up in it.

[sfcambridge]

none of the above

[TheSunshineKid]

Originally Posted by jeremyw90

DC has the energy of a SF or mini Manhattan; progressive, growing and wealthy. It's not an old stagnant city whose best days are behind. Honestly, in many ways DC trumps Chicago, and I predict will overtake it in most categories within the next few years.

lol

[jeremyw90]

Originally Posted by TheSunshineKid

lol

Glad I could amuse you.

I've spent serious amounts of time in Chicago and I live in DC. I'd take DC all day for growth, opportunity and money. It's massively growing, not massively in debt, with relentless taxation. As I get older, I'd take it for nightlife and culture as well. Obviously it's better for weather, location, and overall metro area (MUCH better burbs). The vibe here is polished, upscale and international. Very pretty city.

Everybody eats and does well here, not just White folks. It doesn't feel particularly segregated. When you go out to high end places, the crowd is typically very mixed. There are a LOT of Afr Americans and people of color here with serious cash, that actually are very present within the core of the city, not completely segregated to one side of the city away from the center.

It draws A-level national and international talent, along with NY, SF, LA, Boston, etc.

You're not fearing for your life here. It's also not located within flyover country.

There's a reason why it's substantially more expensive.

[jeremyw90]

I'm a an independent consultant. I've lived in the core of numerous cities mentioned in this thread. All of them, besides DC n NY, have similar setups: snobby White millennial suburban consultant types occupying grossly overpriced apt buildings in the core. VERY little diversity. DC at least has snobby Black n international consultants types in these buildings as well, lol. But, it also has other types too. Like NY, there's a wider variety of ages, backgrounds and careers. Maybe it's because the rent is so damn high that it brings in folks besides the young consultant paying $2350 for a 1br. In DC a similar 1br may well be $3,700 now; so a different demographic.

[personone]

Originally Posted by jeremyw90

Glad I could amuse you.

I've spent serious amounts of time in Chicago and I live in DC. I'd take DC all day for growth, opportunity and money. It's massively growing, not massively in debt, with relentless taxation. As I get older, I'd take it for nightlife and culture as well. Obviously it's better for weather, location, and overall metro area (MUCH better burbs). The vibe here is polished, upscale and international. Very pretty city.

Everybody eats and does well here, not just White folks. It doesn't feel particularly segregated. When you go out to high end places, the crowd is typically very mixed. There are a LOT of Afr Americans and people of color here with serious cash, that actually are very present within the core of the city, not completely segregated to one side of the city away from the center.

It draws A-level national and international talent, along with NY, SF, LA, Boston, etc.

You're not fearing for your life here. It's also not located within flyover country.

There's a reason why it's substantially more expensive.

You had nothing better to do on a Friday night than be on City Data posting fiction. DC is inferior to Chicago in all categories. DC won't be on Chicago's level in your lifetime. Keep dreaming homeboy!!!!!

[EddieOlSkool]

Originally Posted by jeremyw90

Glad I could amuse you.

I've spent serious amounts of time in Chicago and I live in DC. I'd take DC all day for growth, opportunity and money. It's massively growing, not massively in debt, with relentless taxation. As I get older, I'd take it for nightlife and culture as well. Obviously it's better for weather, location, and overall metro area (MUCH better burbs). The vibe here is polished, upscale and international. Very pretty city.

Everybody eats and does well here, not just White folks. It doesn't feel particularly segregated. When you go out to high end places, the crowd is typically very mixed. There are a LOT of Afr Americans and people of color here with serious cash, that actually are very present within the core of the city, not completely segregated to one side of the city away from the center.

It draws A-level national and international talent, along with NY, SF, LA, Boston, etc.

You're not fearing for your life here. It's also not located within flyover country.

There's a reason why it's substantially more expensive.

DC not located in flyover country? I am sorry but outside of the DC metro (like Chicago) what the hell is super interesting about VA or MD? I always thought flyover country meant anything that isn't New York or LA to be honest. People go to VA and MD because of DC. Take that out and they are just as interesting as Illinois, Wisconsin, or Indiana. You telling me people to to that area to hit up Baltimore?

[bellhead]

Originally Posted by andrew61

Not sure about Hyde Park, but isn't Clifton technically within the city limits?

Both are inside the city limits. If you want suburban then Kenwood would be a good one.

[EddieOlSkool]

DC posters always come in to Chicago discussions to shoot us down. But again, how many Chicago people actively think of DC, really ever? That's not a thing to us. Chicago people think of big cities and think New York and Los Angeles.