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Old 09-16-2010, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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I'm glad that I reviewed old OP's ..... read your last closed OP.
Hmmm...I thought he asked some truly legitimate questions...how about you actually answer them.
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:01 PM
 
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If you have Holy Spirit than you will KNOW the truth that the Bible is the inspired Word of God ... If you know Alah personally than the Koran is truth,. If you know any other gods personally than their Words are truth. But I do not Know any other religion that know their God personally than Christianity or any other religion that is most hated in the World than Christian, which show the adversary the devil is busy and the devil knows which holy book are inspired by God. Devil hates the Christians and the Jews the most but will try to hurt all life on the earth.....
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Old 09-16-2010, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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If you have Holy Spirit than you will KNOW the truth that the Bible is the inspired Word of God ... If you know Alah personally than the Koran is truth,. If you know any other gods personally than their Words are truth. But I do not Know any other religion that know their God personally than Christianity or any other religion that is most hated in the World than Christian, which show the adversary the devil is busy and the devil knows which holy book are inspired by God. Devil hates the Christians and the Jews the most but will try to hurt all life on the earth.....
No offense...but that has to be the most twisted logic used to justify truth that I've ever seen posted on these forums yet.
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Old 09-16-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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No offense...but that has to be the most twisted logic used to justify truth that I've ever seen posted on these forums yet.
You were able to follow that? You're good!
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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Only the bible is inspired by God.
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How do you know that?
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Log home in the Appalachians
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If you have Holy Spirit than you will KNOW the truth that the Bible is the inspired Word of God ... If you know Alah personally than the Koran is truth,. If you know any other gods personally than their Words are truth. But I do not Know any other religion that know their God personally than Christianity or any other religion that is most hated in the World than Christian, which show the adversary the devil is busy and the devil knows which holy book are inspired by God. Devil hates the Christians and the Jews the most but will try to hurt all life on the earth.....
I'm sitting here reading this response and ordinarily I wouldn't bother to make a response, basically I have no dog in this hunt because I don't believe that any sacred book is inspired by any deity, I believe that they are all written by man based on his opinion of certain events that took place during his time and for his own personal agenda, however you have touched upon something that does seem to make a little bit of sense and that is, that each one of the different organized religions have their own sacred books and each one believes that their sacred books hold the truth for their religion, even if each one has borrowed from the other. If you take the time to read all three of the major religions sacred books, you'll find that they're all very similar, each one has a belief in a singular deity and each one as a punishment of some sort if you do not worship that particular deity in a certain way which to me makes no sense because it does not give you the freedom to worship your deity the way you see fit and why should everyone worship a particular deity the same way, everyone is different, everyone has their own opinion and no two are alike, so why should everyone have to worship their deity the same way and not the way they want. That's why my people do not understand the reasoning behind your worshiping of your deity.
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Old 09-16-2010, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Oregon
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I'm sitting here reading this response and ordinarily I wouldn't bother to make a response, basically I have no dog in this hunt because I don't believe that any sacred book is inspired by any deity, I believe that they are all written by man based on his opinion of certain events that took place during his time and for his own personal agenda, however you have touched upon something that does seem to make a little bit of sense and that is, that each one of the different organized religions have their own sacred books and each one believes that their sacred books hold the truth for their religion, even if each one has borrowed from the other. If you take the time to read all three of the major religions sacred books, you'll find that they're all very similar, each one has a belief in a singular deity and each one as a punishment of some sort if you do not worship that particular deity in a certain way which to me makes no sense because it does not give you the freedom to worship your deity the way you see fit and why should everyone worship a particular deity the same way, everyone is different, everyone has their own opinion and no two are alike, so why should everyone have to worship their deity the same way and not the way they want. That's why my people do not understand the reasoning behind your worshiping of your deity.
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I agree with much of what you say but why are you limiting your argument to only three of the books of the major religions. (I think there are 12 to 14).
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:02 PM
 
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Books are NOT holy! They can be USEFUL (profitable) for instruction in righteousness and to give hope (in telling us about Jesus, for example). Only God is Holy!!!
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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Judaism has the Old Testament, Christianity has the Old and New Testament ...

It is offensive to traditional Jews to use the term "Old Testament" as this indicates that the Bible has been replaced or superseded (supersessionism) by a "New Testament", the Christian Bible.

Traditional Judaism does not accept that the Bible, or if you prefer, the Jewish Bible, has been replaced or superseded by the Christian Bible.

According to Maimonides (Rabbi Moses ben Maimon, otherwise known by the acronym Rambam, 1135-1204 C.E.), "The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses and there will be no other Torah (Source: Rambam's thirteen principles of faith).


Additionally, there are the many differences between the Christian version of the Jewish Bible and the Jewish version of the Jewish Bible:

According to Rabbi Marc Gellman of G-d Squad fame, "One of the most important things to understand when quoting the Bible (the Hebrew Bible or the Christian Testament) is that it was not written in English. This means you're not only reading a translation from Hebrew or Greek, but you're also often reading an interpretation masquerading as a translation."

As an example of this "interpretation masquerading as a translation", further quoting Rabbi Gellman, "The Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible (and the text used by Jerome to translate the Bible into Latin in the 4th century), famously translates the Hebrew verse 'and behold a young woman shall give birth' as, 'and behold a virgin shall give birth.' The Hebrew word for virgin is betula, but the word used in Isaiah 7 is alma, which just means a young woman. Obviously, if there was a verse in the Hebrew Bible predicting that a virgin would give birth, this would indeed be a stunning prediction and proof text of Jesus' virgin birth. Unfortunately, for Christians who want this to be the verse, it is not the verse."
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Old 09-16-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Books are NOT holy! They can be USEFUL (profitable) for instruction in righteousness and to give hope (in telling us about Jesus, for example). Only God is Holy!!!
The GOOD NEWS, right? It's hard to find in between all the pounded pulpits, threats, crusades, and what-have-you, but I believe it's in there somewhere.

Love, joy, peace....I remember something along those lines.
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