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Old 09-28-2010, 10:30 AM
 
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Food for thought. And a correction. We have over 6 billion people,
Firstly,

Most people alive on the planet today are in the FIRST incarnations. New souls are created by the Source (God). Also, souls reincarnate on various planets and in various universes. If on one planet the population goes up than the number of souls SENT to that planet goes up.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:07 AM
 
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Geez, people! Why all the hate? If you don't like Buddhism - don't become a Buddhist! Personally, I like Buddhism. However, I really don't see myself subscribing to any religion. But I like a lot of things about Buddhism. Even if I didn't - I wouldn't try to disprove it, negate it, or take it away from those that believe in it. I also don't try to do that with Christianity. Why is it okay to treat other religions the way that Christians don't want Christianity treated? Why don't we all try to remember the Golden Rule.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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Food for thought. And a correction: We have over 6 billion people,

Maybe only Buddhist and Hindus go thru reincarnation?
I believe that reincarnation is a fairly small part of the population equation, with new "spirits" incarnating at a greater rate. That's because I believe in reincarnation as an option to us based on Free Will, and I think God gives us more than one opportunity to better ourselves.

Personally, I don't want to come back! But, while I think I live pretty "straight", I'm not a particularly compassionate, or the most charitable, person around. More lessons could be learned.
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Old 09-28-2010, 12:34 PM
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Firstly,

Most people alive on the planet today are in the FIRST incarnations. New souls are created by the Source (God). Also, souls reincarnate on various planets and in various universes. If on one planet the population goes up than the number of souls SENT to that planet goes up.
So there is a Source? I thought Budhism had no God according to the early video. So was the video incorrect?
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Old 09-28-2010, 01:56 PM
 
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Silly for you. Kumbaya ma lord, Kumbaya...... Okay, now that I have that over with...

There was one statement of Budhism made on EWTN/The Journey Home video that appears to render Budhism false unless there's a Budhist belief that I am not familiar with or it has not been discussed. It's the one statement that says that your prior reincarnations go back infinite times. Just using the following population chart since 1800 is sufficient:
File:World-Population-1800-2100.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If there were a billion people alive in 1800, then how can those billion people get reincarnated into 5 billiion+ people of today. Do souls get created along the way. Is there a soul cache somewhere? Do souls get divided? I didn't hear anything to that effect, but the math doesn't bode well for infinite backwards soul reincarnation.

Will a Budhist please explain.
I am happy to explain. Reincarnation does not have to be strictly human. One can be reincarnated as an animal, a god, etc. So the existance of more human population does not discredit the theory of reincarnation. (:
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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Geez, people! Why all the hate? If you don't like Buddhism - don't become a Buddhist! Personally, I like Buddhism. However, I really don't see myself subscribing to any religion. But I like a lot of things about Buddhism. Even if I didn't - I wouldn't try to disprove it, negate it, or take it away from those that believe in it. I also don't try to do that with Christianity. Why is it okay to treat other religions the way that Christians don't want Christianity treated? Why don't we all try to remember the Golden Rule.
Hit the right cord again Dewdrop.........
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:07 PM
 
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If Christ met Buddha perhaps they would've been friends. Perhaps Buddha would have been Christ's mentor.
Actually, if Christ returned today I think he and the Dalai Lama would become great friends. They would break bread together and share each other's thoughts and missions, and shake heads together over the sorry state of the world we made of it.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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So there is a Source? I thought Budhism had no God according to the early video. So was the video incorrect?
My beliefs are a mixture of Buddhism and of New Age spirituality. People who have come back from death and have had NDE's have given us much knowledge of the nature of reincarnation and karma. Also, many people have been regressed not only to past lives but to the place that you go to in between (the spirit world) and in these states of consciousness have been allowed to remember certain aspects of the spirit world. All of these people have said similar things to what people have said who have survived death. Yes, I believe there is a source. Though it would be hard to call this source God because human ideas of God are too anthropomorphic (human centered). The source does NOT share human characteristics in the way that the Gods of religions do.
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:17 PM
 
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My beliefs are a mixture of Buddhism and of New Age spirituality. People who have come back from death and have had NDE's have given us much knowledge of the nature of reincarnation and karma. Also, many people have been regressed not only to past lives but to the place that you go to in between (the spirit world) and in these states of consciousness have been allowed to remember certain aspects of the spirit world. All of these people have said similar things to what people have said who have survived death. Yes, I believe there is a source. Though it would be hard to call this source God because human ideas of God are too anthropomorphic (human centered). The source does NOT share human characteristics in the way that the Gods of religions do.
Allow me to clarify that although rlarson21 says that he includes Buddhism in his religious beliefs. Some of the things in this post are not of Buddhist origin. Just to make sure people know which is which (; Buddhists such as myself believe that 'souls' have no beginning and they never end. Much as the world had no beginning and will never end. However, if one reaches enlightenment, his/her 'soul' is no longer subject to reincarnation and therefore goes to nirvana. -Many Blessings-
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Old 09-28-2010, 08:19 PM
 
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I am happy to explain. Reincarnation does not have to be strictly human. One can be reincarnated as an animal, a god, etc. So the existance of more human population does not discredit the theory of reincarnation. (:
Speaking as an EX-atheistic Buddhist of 18+ years:

The belief is that when a man dies, he is automatically born again, or appears in a new shape, consistent with the merit or lack thereof that he achieved in his life. These forms range from the most despicable inanimate object to being a veritable god. He could be born in any of 136 hells in the interior of the earth, or in a happy position on earth, or as a spirit in one of many heavens. There is never any end to these rebirths because no matter what form you end up in, it has a limited life span, though it may be billions of years.
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