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Old 09-28-2010, 12:48 AM
 
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That's not Buddhism. what you describe is closer to Christianity. Buddhists don't worship any 'God' at all. They believe gods probably exist (they're called celestials) but they even THEY are trapped in the cycle of reincarnation. Buddhism has to do with HUMAN EFFORT in attaining a state of transcendence. At which time the cycle of reincarnation will end. It's about overcoming suffering and evil. Buddhists do not 'feed things' to statues.
Well then who is BUDDHA and why are there statues of him/it, all over Asia?
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:11 AM
 
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Well then who is BUDDHA and why are there statues of him/it, all over Asia?
Buddha was a historical person who was born in Nepal and acheived enlightenment. He is a sort of role-model if you will for the human race. There are statues of Him throughout asia because He is revered and honored. When someone visits the statues they pay homage to Him and offer prayers.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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Salvation has always been through faith in the promised Messiah. Immediately after Adam sinned, God gave him the Gospel message. In Genesis 3:15 God told Satan that when the Messiah (Jesus) came in the future (relative to their time) that He would bruise the head of Satan (a reference to Jesus' strategic victory over Satan). All of the animal sacrifices performed before Christ came into the world pointed toward Him.

The word of God declares that salvation is through faith in Christ alone.
This is strictly a Christian viewpoint. The Hebrew bible has a completely different viewpoint of who and what the Messiah is supposed to be and what he is supposed to accomplish in his lifetime....Jesus didn't qualify in the first century and he doesn't qualify now...that is why the Jews reject him to this day. The Hebrew bible specifically states, in many areas, that the only thing one need do for salvation is return to God....END OF STORY.

Christianity/Paulianity is a NEW religion...that is a fact that cannot be denied no matter how you mangle the Hebrew bible to fit the Christian agenda. Christianity has also syncretistically espoused many concepts of Buddhism and reworked them to make them their own the same way Christianity also syncretistically espoused many concepts of Paganism....it's happened throughout the centuries and I'm sure it will continue to happen until we all become fully enlightened.

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Old 09-28-2010, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Prattville, Alabama
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June has always wondered what's the deal with bashing another's religious belief, particularly when they don't bash others...

It would seem to June that if one was secure in their own particular belief system, that that would suffice.

In peaceful acceptance.


Take gentle care.
I agree....it's a shame that there are those who feel they have to continually condemn and damn others for their different beliefs. I have found, in my studies, that ALL religions/beliefs are syncretistically similar...they ALL contain bits and pieces from other religions...so to condemn one over the other is really silly.
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Old 09-28-2010, 06:16 AM
 
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Buddha was a historical person who was born in Nepal and acheived enlightenment. He is a sort of role-model if you will for the human race. There are statues of Him throughout asia because He is revered and honored. When someone visits the statues they pay homage to Him and offer prayers.
That's right. So rlarson, is just picking a fight. If he doesn't like what he sees then he should just work on his own demons. Maybe move to Asia or something where people feel as strongly as he does about BUDDHA.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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People don't worship "statues". Even a moron knows that a piece of plaster offers nothing. They are merely something tangible for people to relate to in their prayers, in this case images of the saints as they looked in their time here as mortals. The cross/crucifix fits the same scenario.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with statues. I've got a Christ statue, a couple of crosses on walls, and various Buddha statues and figurines in my house. I'm just a "tangible" type of person. And while most of my praying is not done kneeling in front of one, I like looking at them.

People make too big a deal of it.
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:48 AM
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I agree....it's a shame that there are those who feel they have to continually condemn and damn others for their different beliefs. I have found, in my studies, that ALL religions/beliefs are syncretistically similar...they ALL contain bits and pieces from other religions...so to condemn one over the other is really silly.
Silly for you. Kumbaya ma lord, Kumbaya...... Okay, now that I have that over with...

There was one statement of Budhism made on EWTN/The Journey Home video that appears to render Budhism false unless there's a Budhist belief that I am not familiar with or it has not been discussed. It's the one statement that says that your prior reincarnations go back infinite times. Just using the following population chart since 1800 is sufficient:
File:World-Population-1800-2100.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If there were a billion people alive in 1800, then how can those billion people get reincarnated into 5 billiion+ people of today. Do souls get created along the way. Is there a soul cache somewhere? Do souls get divided? I didn't hear anything to that effect, but the math doesn't bode well for infinite backwards soul reincarnation.

Will a Budhist please explain.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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I am happy that you learned so much (: And if you or anyone has any further questions about Buddhism I would be happy to answer them for you.

Thank you for starting this thought-provoking topic and to all who responded with their views.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada Land, CA
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If there were a billion people alive in 1800, then how can those billion people get reincarnated into 5 billiion+ people of today. Do souls get created along the way. Is there a soul cache somewhere? Do souls get divided? I didn't hear anything to that effect, but the math doesn't bode well for infinite backwards soul reincarnation.

Will a Budhist please explain.
Food for thought. And a correction: We have over 6 billion people,

Maybe only Buddhist and Hindus go thru reincarnation?

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Old 09-28-2010, 10:29 AM
 
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That's right. So rlarson, is just picking a fight. If he doesn't like what he sees then he should just work on his own demons. Maybe move to Asia or something where people feel as strongly as he does about BUDDHA.
The post PROVED my point. People don't 'worship' Buddha, they REVERE him, similar to how we revere the founding fathers. similar to how many Christians revere Mary or Saints. The Buddha is NOT considered to be a 'god'.
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