Jesus Christ will reign forever.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Mike555

The word 'eternal' can be applied to both the eternal past and eternal future, or it can be used with reference to looking forward to the eternal future.

A doughnut is eternal, it has no middle, no end, and no beginning.
Life on the other hand, has a beginning without end.

As it was in the beginning, now and ever shall be – a world without end.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

A doughnut is eternal, it has no middle, no end, and no beginning.
Life on the other hand, has a beginning without end.

As it was in the beginning, now and ever shall be – a world without end.

The present heavens and earth will be destroyed and then recreated.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

Jesus Christ holds the Universe together (Col. 1:17). He will release His hold on the Universe and everything will simply dissolve. He will then create new heavens and a new earth (Rev. 21:1) over which He will reign forever.

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Mike555

The present heavens and earth will be destroyed and then recreated.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.

Jesus Christ holds the Universe together (Col. 1:17). He will release His hold on the Universe and everything will simply dissolve. He will then create new heavens and a new earth (Rev. 21:1) over which He will reign forever.

Indeed, a dramatic transformation will take place, which has been hidden in the flesh of men.

Romans 8:19-21
For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of
Him who subjected it [in hope], because the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

[Richard1965]

Originally Posted by trettep

That is incorrect. Your saying what is not there. Even your link you provided shows the "age" is listed as SINGULAR and not plural. "Eternal" means without Beginning and without End. God is an example of ETERNAL. But the same book and chapter you quoted from shows that ALL ages are created:

Heb 1:2 in these last days did speak to us in a Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He did make the ages;

Now if all Ages were created then they surely can't be "ETERNAL".

Yes... They can...

[John93]

Originally Posted by Mike555

'It is significant also that the Lamb is pictured on the throne (mentioned also in v. 3). This makes it clear that 1 Corinthians 15:24, which states that Christ "hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power," does not mean that Christ's reign on the throne will end but that it will change its character. Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords (cf. Rev. 17:14; 19:16) for all eternity.'

"For He must reign until..."?

Since the issue is whether or not Jesus will reign forever, I am not going to get into a discussion on the variations in the above phrases.

Convenient. Yet you had no problems hardpressing trettep about what he thought regarding the reign of Christ.

Hebrews 1:8: ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, "Thy throne, O God, is for the eon of the eon." In both occurrences in this verse, the Greek word we translated "eon" appears in the singular.

Ephesians 3:21: auto hê doxa en tê ekklêsia kai en Christo Iêsou eis pasas tas geneas tou aionos ton aionon, "To Him be the glory in the ecclesia and in Christ Jesus for all the generations of the eon of the eons. Amen." Here the Greek word for eon is used twice. The first time it is in the singular; the second time it is in the plural.

Galatians 1:5: ho hê doxa eis tous aionas ton aionon, "To Whom be glory for the eons of the eons." Here the Greek word for eon appears twice in the plural.

I guess these three phrases all mean "forever and ever" right?

And it has already been established that Jesus' reign does not end. Once His Millennial reign ends He will still rule eternally.

"for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet -- " (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:27

"for all things He did put under his feet, and, when one may say that all things have been subjected, it is evident that He is excepted who did subject the all things to him," (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:27

"and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all." (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:28

The Holy Spirit need not be mentioned directly. The Holy Spirit is God and is co-equal with the Father and with the Son. The triune God will reign forever.

Using that logic, then Jesus shouldn't have been mentioned in that verse.
Revelation 22:1 and Revelation 22:3 don't mention the Holy Spirit either. I wonder why??

Originally Posted by Richard1965

Yes... They can...

Only if you like to contradict. The ages wouldn't have had a beginning if they are eternal. I'm going to clear up these misconceptions.

Eternal - without beginning or end.
Everlasting - with a beginning, lasting forever.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by John93

"For He must reign until..."?




Convenient. Yet you had no problems hardpressing trettep about what he thought regarding the reign of Christ.

Hebrews 1:8: ho thronos sou ho theos eis ton aiona tou aionos, "Thy throne, O God, is for the eon of the eon." In both occurrences in this verse, the Greek word we translated "eon" appears in the singular.

Ephesians 3:21: auto hê doxa en tê ekklêsia kai en Christo Iêsou eis pasas tas geneas tou aionos ton aionon, "To Him be the glory in the ecclesia and in Christ Jesus for all the generations of the eon of the eons. Amen." Here the Greek word for eon is used twice. The first time it is in the singular; the second time it is in the plural.

Galatians 1:5: ho hê doxa eis tous aionas ton aionon, "To Whom be glory for the eons of the eons." Here the Greek word for eon appears twice in the plural.

I guess these three phrases all mean "forever and ever" right?




"for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet -- " (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:27

"for all things He did put under his feet, and, when one may say that all things have been subjected, it is evident that He is excepted who did subject the all things to him," (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:27

"and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all." (YLT) 1 Corinthians 15:28




Using that logic, then Jesus shouldn't have been mentioned in that verse.
Revelation 22:1 and Revelation 22:3 don't mention the Holy Spirit either. I wonder why??





Only if you like to contradict. The ages wouldn't have had a beginning if they are eternal. I'm going to clear up these misconceptions.

Eternal - without beginning or end.
Everlasting - with a beginning, lasting forever.

It's already been shown very clearly in post #87 that Jesus Christ will reign forever.