Eternal torment has never entered the mind of God (punishment, Revelation, believe)
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It is rather plain to see it talks about human sacrifice done by Israelites? It doesn't matter which method they used to kill the people, God never told Israel to perform human sacrifices.
This has been posted many times, but's not simply about the act of human sacrifice, but the entire image of God that has been adopted by man.
Here's the question: Shall God Do That Which He Abhors?
Hear the law respecting...
Bondmen, (Deut. 15:12-15)
Strangers, (Exod. 22:21/ Lev. 19:33,34)
Debtors, (Deut. 15:1,2,9)
Widows & orphans, (Exo.22:22/ Deut. 24:17)
and the punishment of the wicked, which may not exceed forty stripes,
"lest if it exceed, then thy brother should seem vile unto thee; (Deut. 25:2,3) yea even the law respecting "asses fallen into a pit:" (Ex. 21:33,34/ Deut.23: 4,5)
--hear the prophets exhorting to "break every yoke," to "let the oppressed go free," and to "undo the heavy burdens:" (Isa. 58:6)
--hear the still clearer witness of the gospel, "not to let the sun go down upon our wrath," (Eph. 4:26) to "forgive not until seven times, but until seventy times seven," (Matt. 18:22) "not to be overcome of evil, but to overcome evil with good:" (Rom. 12:21) to "walk in love as Christ has loved us," and to be imitators of God as dear children:" (Eph. 5:1,2)
--see the judgment of those who neglect the poor, and the naked, and the hungry, and the stranger, and the prisoner: (Matt.25:41-43)--and then say,
Shall God do that which He abhors? Shall He command that bondmen and debtors be freed, and yet Himself keep those who are in worse bondage and under a greater debt in endless imprisonment? Shall He bid us care for widows and orphans, and Himself forget this widowed nature, which has lost its Head and Lord, and those poor orphan souls which cannot cry, Abba, Father? Shall He limit punishment to forty strips, "lest thy brother seem vile," and Himself inflict more upon those who though fallen still are His children.? Is not Christ the faithful Israelite, who fulfills the law; and shall He break it in any one of these particulars?
Shall He say, "Forgive till seventy times seven," and Himself not forgive except in this short life? Shall He command us to "overcome evil with good," and Himself, the Almighty, be overcome of evil?
Shall He judge those who leave the captives unvisited, and Himself leave captives in a worse prison for ever unvisited? Does He not again and again appeal to our own natural feelings of mercy, as witnessing "how much more" we may expect a larger mercy from our "Father which is in heaven"? (Matt. 7:6-11 If it were otherwise, might not the adversary reproach, and say, Thou that teachest and judgest another, teachest Thou not thyself? Not thus will God be justified. But, blessed be His Name, He shall in all be justified. and when in His day He opens "the treasures of the hail," (Job 38:22) and shows what sweet waters He can bring out of hard hailstones; when He unlocks "the place where light now dwells" shut up, and reveals what light is hid in darkness and hardness, as we see in coal and flint, those silent witnesses of the dark hard hearts, which God can turn to floods of light; when we have "taken darkness to the bound thereof," (Job 38:19,20) and have seen not only how "the earth is full of God's riches," but how He has laid up the depths in storehouses; (Psl. 104: 24...Psl. 33:7) in that day when "the mystery of God is finished," and He has destroyed them which corrupt the earth," (Rev. 11:18)--then shall it be seen how truly God's judgments are love, and that "in very faithfulness He hath afflicted us." (Psl. 119:75) -Pastor Andrew Jukes-
It is rather plain to see it talks about human sacrifice done by Israelites? It doesn't matter which method they used to kill the people, God never told Israel to perform human sacrifices.
God never commanded them to burn their sons and daughters , neither did such a thought ever enter His mind , yes of cause it's clear that it's talking about burning humans has sacrifices , and burning humans for sacrifice is an abomination .
Jesus is God's precious sacrifice !!!!!!!!!!!! . No burning was required.
God never commanded them to burn their sons and daughters , neither did such a thought ever enter His mind , yes of cause it's clear that it's talking about burning humans has sacrifices , and burning humans for sacrifice is an abomination .
Jesus is God's precious sacrifice !!!!!!!!!!!! . No burning was required.
Ask yourself why He wasn't burnt on the Cross
Who burned Sodom and Gomorrah?
It never crossed his mind to command Israelites to perform human sacrifice. It has nothing do with God's own judgment.
If you answer "fire and brimstone", then you've just said "God and His cleansing".
The Bible says God rained down burning sulfur and turned the place into a furnace: Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens
Early the next morning Abraham got up and returned to the place where he had stood before the LORD. 28 He looked down toward Sodom and Gomorrah, toward all the land of the plain, and he saw dense smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a furnace.
Jude 1:5-7 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
2 Peter 2:6-8 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)
It never crossed his mind to command Israelites to perform human sacrifice. It has nothing do with God's own judgment.
You see God burning the folk of Sodom and Gomorrah alive, i don't . What i read and see in Jeremiah 7 verse 31 is man burning their sons and daughters alive.
Anything that befalls man from the hand of God is for is betterment . God's judgement is always corrective.
My walk and testimony is of faith in His care , which at times (due to my rebellious nature) means being burnt, cut and bruised for my betterment .
You see God burning the folk of Sodom and Gomorrah alive, i don't .
What exactly makes you think they were not alive? The Bible clearly says he destroyed everyone living in those cities.
Genesis 19:24-26 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
What exactly makes you think they were not alive? The Bible clearly says he destroyed everyone living in those cities.
Genesis 19:24-26 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah—from the LORD out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, including all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land.26 But Lot's wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.
Finn did i happen to mention corrective judgement in the post you are quoting from?
Depends on your view of God, once again. Even they wererestored! (Eze 16:53)
Everyone will be restored for the day judgment, and then they will be judged. Ezekiel talks about the sins of Jerusalem, and says Sodom will be restored for judgment (just like everyone else) to the way they were before (sinful) and they will be found less guilty than the people of Jerusalem who worshipped false Gods. Both will suffer everlasting punishment as stated in the scriptures I quoted earlier. The burning of Sodom was an example of what happens to unbelievers. Not only did God burn them alive on earth, he will restore them and burn them again.
Revelation 21 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
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