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You realize Romans 10:9-10 doesn't help your case?
Romans 10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Look at who ultimately confesses:
Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Guess what that just said? Everyone will be saved because everyone will confess.
LOL Romans 10 talks about living people while Romans 14:10-11 refers to judgment of the dead: For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
Yes, at that point even the most hardened sinners will realize their error, and much in like in court of law where the accused will stand to honor the judge anmd hear the sentence, everyone will knee in front of God's judgment seat. It will be too late to save anyone though.
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LOL Romans 10 talks about living people while Romans 14:10-11 refers to judgment of the dead: For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat. It is written: “‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.’”
Yes, at that point even the most hardened sinners will realize their error, and much in like in court of law where the accused will stand to honor the judge anmd hear the sentence, everyone will knee in front of God's judgment seat. It will be too late to save anyone though.
Revelation 5:13
Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever(to the ages of ages)!"
The scriptures put the lie to your false doctrines of eternal violence and hate ...
All creation will sing praises to God and glorify his name ... All will worship him in a sure knowledge that he has saved them, though many like you and Mike will be terribly ashamed as you are brought low because of your false religion and worship of the doctrines of the mystery Babylon, forever remembering that you misrepresented God and blasphemed his name in the name of that false religion ...
The scriptures put the lie to your false doctrines of eternal violence and hate ...
"Bow to me and/or I will torture you!"
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All creation will sing praises to God and glorify his name ... All will worship him in a sure knowledge that he has saved them, though many like you and Mike will be terribly ashamed as you are brought low because of your false religion and worship of the doctrines of the mystery Babylon, forever remembering that you misrepresented God and blasphemed his name in the name of that false religion ...
Revelation 5:13
Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: "To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever(to the ages of ages)!"
The scriptures put the lie to your false doctrines of eternal violence and hate ......
Violence and hate? Yes, violence and hate will indeed erupt only a few verses after Rev 5:13 which you quoted. In Revelatrion 6 the Lord cracks open the seals and the four horsemen are released, and that is just the beginning. Billions will die. The "all creation" refers to the souls of dead believers in heaven and around the throne. Did you really think cows and bulls on earth will moo praise to God?
In post #141 I told you about common and efficacious grace and how they relate to a person being able to respond to the gospel. I also posted some studies on them. Instead of availing yourself of those studies and gaining understanding of what you are attempting to talk about from a position of ignorance, you come back and attempt to tell me how wrong I am.
I suggest you go back and study the material I gave you and learn something.
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Rom 3:11 "there is NONE who seeks after God."
John 6:44 "no one CAN come to Me UNLESS the Father who sent Me DRAWS him."
John 15:16 "YOU DID NOT CHOOSE ME, BUT I CHOSE YOU."
The above scripture seems straight forward.
Mike, one cannot just wake up and decide to accept “god”, for we cannot come to “god”, he must "draw" us. Again the “bible” says that no one seeks after “god”; the natural mind cannot even understand the things of “god”. So how, pray tell, can a natural man who doesn’t have the ears to hear the "gospel" yet along accept it?
Violence and hate? Yes, violence and hate will indeed erupt only a few verses after Rev 5:13 which you quoted. In Revelatrion 6 the Lord cracks open the seals and the four horsemen are released, and that is just the beginning. Billions will die. The "all creation" refers to the souls of dead believers in heaven and around the throne. Did you really think cows and bulls on earth will moo praise to God?
Everybody dies ...
Do you really believe that a mule spoke to Balaam?
The rocks themselves would sing aloud the glory and praises of Christ our lord if all other things held their peace, oh ye of little faith ...
You may make a mockery and a joke out of the glory of God and his purpose to accomplish everything that he desires, but God isn't mocked ...
It is unfortunate for you that you are so brainwashed with the false teachings of the traditions of men that you are unable to even recognize that revelations is not a letter of prophecy which is written in chronological order, but one day the veil of ignorance will be removed from your eyes when you are finally made ashamed of your false religion ...
I teach these things?
Or is that a generalized statement in reference to the cows and bull of FJ?
Was the smiley the defining point of separation?
I was referring to the the fundamentalist teaching that God will fail to accomplish his desire, and that most humans will be damned forever, or eternally tortured, or tortured and then murdered.
The smile was just an expression of my personal conviction.
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