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Or is it meaningless? Meaning I'm praying to a name,but not the true God? In other words I'm praying to nothing,because that might not be his name?
What is it that you are praying for, spiritual matters or ?
The Tetragrammaton [ YHWH ] is not originally written as Jehovah.
But the most common accepted English pronunciation of God's personal name is Jehovah as seen in the older KJV Bible at Psalm 83 v 18.
Jesus said his Father name should be hallowed, held sacred, sanctified.
Jesus also said his Father's name would be made manifest and be declared at John 17 vs 6,26.
Jesus said we are to pray according to God's will being done on Earth as it is in Heaven.
According to Scripture God's will for Heaven is good conditions.
No one goes to Heaven to be sick or die in heaven, no war in heaven, no pollution, etc.
So, then we are to pray that those same peaceful good conditions that exist in Heaven also come to exist here on Earth.
Jesus said we are also to pray for God's spirit to aid us at Luke 11 v 13 B.
Jesus knew God's will for him was to teach about God's kingdom. -Luke 4 v 43
Jesus' followers would also likewise proclaim the good news of God's kingdom, but now as being part of an international scale. - Matthew 24 v 14; 28 vs 19,20
So, as Jesus did not pray to nothing, and Jesus knew his Father's holy name, according to Scripture so can we.
I do not believe God is concerned about what you call Him . . . but I too follow Christ and pray to "Our Father in Heaven."
If God was not concerned, then why did Jesus add 'hallowed be thy name ' ?
Jesus believed it important enough that his Father's name should be held sacred, holy or sanctified.
Jesus also taught that his Father's name was made manifest and would be declared according to John 17 vs 6,26
Lord and God are just titles and not personal names.
For example:
Please notice in the KJV Bible at Psalm 110 v 1 that there are two [2] LORD/Lord's mentioned.
The LORD in all upper-case letters is where the Tetragrammaton 'YHWH' stood.
The four letters [YHWH ] that stand for God's personal name.
Whereas, ' Lord ' in some lower-case letters never applies to God's personal name, but applies at Psalm 110 v 1 to Jesus as Lord.
The old KJV Bible uses the accepted English pronunciation of God's personal name [YHWH ]at Psalm 83 v 18.
If God was not concerned, then why did Jesus add 'hallowed be thy name ' ?
Jesus believed it important enough that his Father's name should be held sacred, holy or sanctified.
Jesus also taught that his Father's name was made manifest and would be declared according to John 17 vs 6,26
Lord and God are just titles and not personal names.
For example:
Please notice in the KJV Bible at Psalm 110 v 1 that there are two [2] LORD/Lord's mentioned.
The LORD in all upper-case letters is where the Tetragrammaton 'YHWH' stood.
The four letters [YHWH ] that stand for God's personal name.
Whereas, ' Lord ' in some lower-case letters never applies to God's personal name, but applies at Psalm 110 v 1 to Jesus as Lord.
The old KJV Bible uses the accepted English pronunciation of God's personal name [YHWH ]at Psalm 83 v 18.
That's my whole point. It does say"Whomever calls on my name".
God and Lord are titltes,not names.
I don't know why people are questioning my intentions,or my heart.
One time I prayed and asked for the true religion,and Jehovah Witnesses showed up the next day.
So,that's why I'm confused.
Yahovah, hears and answers, however the answer may not the answer that you wanted. He answers according to His will, not our's. At times we misunderstand the answer we are given, we need to ask for the wisdom to understand what Yahovah is trying to tell us. Be still and know I am God/Elohim. Yes, He does have a name! He gave Moses His name to tell the people and said, this my name forever. YHVH without out the vowels. Lord, God, Master, Father, are all titles, not His name. If you look at a Torah scroll, the letters are there, the name isn't pronounced, it is pronounced as Adoni or Lord.
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I simply mean that God knows your attempting to communicate with Him even if your not getting His name just right.
How would you describe your relationship with God? I am not trying pry or make judgements but based on your question I think perhaps you need to examine such things. Or it could be that what your asking for is not God's plan or in His timing yet. Really hard to give you a direct answer without more information. But I can assure you God is capable of knowing you are trying to talk to Him.
Excellent answer. God knows when a person is addressing Him, regardless of the name the person uses. And He will answer prayers regardless of whether the name you're addressing Him by is the "right" one or not. That said, I would also agree that God doesn't always give us the answer we're hoping for or answer in what we would consider a timely fashion. When that is the case, though, I don't believe it's because we called Him by the "wrong" name.
Or is it meaningless? Meaning I'm praying to a name,but not the true God? In other words I'm praying to nothing,beucase that might not be his name?
God looks at the intention of your heart. He knows you are directing your prayers to Him.
There are many gods in the Bible. But only one is Yahweh, the most high supreme creator God.
2Cor 4:4 -> satan is called god.
Psalm 82:1-8 many gods stand before Yaweh
Job 38:7 several (70 I think) singing gods.
Deut 32:17. Demons are called gods.
Dead Samuel is called a god in the passage of the witch of Endor.
Etc.
Considering the above praying using a name is safer
No worries, God looks at the heart.
God looks at the intention of your heart. He knows you are directing your prayers to Him.
Considering the above praying using a name is safer
No worries, God looks at the heart.
Excellent quote.
Look at this quotation in John ch. 9 by the blind man who had been healed cy Christ. [30] The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes.
[31] Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
God looks at the intention of your heart. He knows you are directing your prayers to Him.
No worries, God looks at the heart.
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Originally Posted by Robert M Prince
Excellent quote.
Look at this quotation in John ch. 9 by the blind man who had been healed cy Christ. [30] The man answered and said unto them, Why herein is a marvellous thing, that ye know not from whence he is, and yet he hath opened mine eyes.
[31] Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.
For the record . . . there is only ONE God, period. There is no one else to pray to. That is what "I am that I am" means. The key is whether or not we BE and DO what God expects of us. Christ showed us how to BE and DO what God expects of us. So we "believe ON/INTO" Him when we ARE and DO what He revealed.(Note: nothing about what we "believe ABOUT" Him.). If we "love God and each other" we ARE and DO what God expects of us and are disciples of Christ . . . WHATEVER we believe or do not believe.
Matt. 7:[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
You are absolutely correct that we must be DOERS of the will of the Lord and not hearers only.
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