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Both of us have never experienced water before and can't swim, but have heard that it might be dangerous. We're sitting on a boat. You say "jump in, you'll be fine." I jump in and drown.
(a) water inhalation killed me.
(b) believing that it wouldn't was directly related to the promise you afforded.
Your message is that it doesn't matter your faith (or even no faith at all), we'll all end up in paradise. If you're wrong and historical Christianity is right,
(b) sin is the cause of my demise
(b) believing that it wouldn't was directly related to the promise you afforded.
Since you are offering salvation of all, not because the Bible is clear on it (since there are countless passages that say contrary), but because it makes us feel better about our family, friends, dead relatives, etc. that we would like to wish into heaven, I would like a guarantee from you that if I end up in hell because of your promise (see b above), we can switch places. If not, and you are not certain of the babble you proclaim, I suggest you study a bit and revise your gospel before you condemn yourself (per Gal. 1).
"In 1Tim. 4:9-11 we are told that the living God `is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of those who believe,' and with this 1Tim. 2: 4-6 concurs. Many seek to limit it to believers, but they overlook the significance of the double statement. That there is a special salvation for believers is plainly stated, but this does not limit the other part of the statement, rather does it emphasize it. The salvation of believers is a special work; they are a special class in the `all mankind.' God's will for mankind is salvation, not as an experimental salvation toying with the will and choice of men, but as their Disposer – God.
My dear brethren, let us embrace this glorious truth which God has revealed for us. Let it so become a part of us that our lives will be reflecting it. Let it fill our hearts with the love of God and His glorious Son. Let us be rendering praise to the living God, the universal Creator and Reconciler, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
`To Him be glory for the eons! Amen!' "
REDEMPTION IN TWO PARTS God's Plan Of The Ages; The Purpose Of God In This Age; Redemption In Two Parts; As In Adam - So In Christ; Every Man In His Own Order; All Things In Subjection; God All In All
Twin, you just will not admit that it is possible that judgment is NOT eternal. Eternal suffering for a finite time of rebellion is NOT justice by any standards.
It is VERY difficult for a westerner, especially American, to understand that sometimes punishment means punishment, not correction. Back in the day, people were punished for their crime (gasp!). Try reading books prior to modernism, immune from this freedom=infinite choices BS that you are fed as a child. Talk about indoctrination.
"In 1Tim. 4:9-11 we are told that the living God `is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of those who believe,' and with this 1Tim. 2: 4-6 concurs. Many seek to limit it to believers, but they overlook the significance of the double statement. That there is a special salvation for believers is plainly stated, but this does not limit the other part of the statement, rather does it emphasize it. The salvation of believers is a special work; they are a special class in the `all mankind.' God's will for mankind is salvation, not as an experimental salvation toying with the will and choice of men, but as their Disposer – God.
My dear brethren, let us embrace this glorious truth which God has revealed for us. Let it so become a part of us that our lives will be reflecting it. Let it fill our hearts with the love of God and His glorious Son. Let us be rendering praise to the living God, the universal Creator and Reconciler, the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
`To Him be glory for the eons! Amen!' "
REDEMPTION IN TWO PARTS God's Plan Of The Ages; The Purpose Of God In This Age; Redemption In Two Parts; As In Adam - So In Christ; Every Man In His Own Order; All Things In Subjection; God All In All
ALL IN ALL – A.E. KNOCH
“The terms translated ‘forever’ and ‘everlasting’ and ‘never’ are human perversions which could never have deceived us if they had been consistently rendered. They denote definite divisions of time called ages or eons. All together they form a distinct portion of time called eonian times. Destruction, like salvation, is eonian. It is not the end or aim of God. God destroys nothing that He will not restore. He loses nothing that will not return to Him laden with praise and glory for Himself. Destruction is a passing process, not a finished goal. Through God it will work out the welfare of all of His creatures and the glory of our Saviour."
ALL IN ALL – A.E. KNOCH
“The terms translated ‘forever’ and ‘everlasting’ and ‘never’ are human perversions which could never have deceived us if they had been consistently rendered. They denote definite divisions of time called ages or eons. All together they form a distinct portion of time called eonian times. Destruction, like salvation, is eonian. It is not the end or aim of God. God destroys nothing that He will not restore. He loses nothing that will not return to Him laden with praise and glory for Himself. Destruction is a passing process, not a finished goal. Through God it will work out the welfare of all of His creatures and the glory of our Saviour."
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -Abraham Lincoln
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -Abraham Lincoln
ABRAHAM LINCOLN QUOTE
"I used to think that it took the smartest kind of man to preach and defend Universalism;
I now think entirely differently.
It is the easiest faith to preach that I have ever heard.
There is more proof in its favor than in any other doctrine I have ever heard.
I have a suit in court here tomorrow and if I had as much proof in its favor
as there is in Universalism, I would go home, and leave my student to take charge of it,
and I should feel perfectly certain that he would gain it."
-Abraham Lincoln A Southern "Universalist Church" History: Abraham Lincoln, Universalist?
ABRAHAM LINCOLN QUOTE
"I used to think that it took the smartest kind of man to preach and defend Universalism;
I now think entirely differently.
It is the easiest faith to preach that I have ever heard.
There is more proof in its favor than in any other doctrine I have ever heard.
I have a suit in court here tomorrow and if I had as much proof in its favor
as there is in Universalism, I would go home, and leave my student to take charge of it,
and I should feel perfectly certain that he would gain it."
-Abraham Lincoln A Southern "Universalist Church" History: Abraham Lincoln, Universalist?
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