Christian values - cancelling a funeral because deceased was gay (atheist, faith)
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
You have it backwards ... the problem is secular society feel tenets of their godlessness need to be forced or viewed as valid as the righteous.
More valid actually. We base things on facts and reality, not hope and faith.
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Your categorizing the truth as "stories cobbled together by those ancient superstitious tribesmen" will one day be shown for what it is. The Christian Church is told to expect such animosity and in due time we will be vindicated of all the hate being spoken against and hate being acted upon it by the unbelieving world.
Don't hold your breath. More and more people are realizing the false hopes that all religions hold out for an afterlife are just that, false hopes. More and more people are recognizing that rather than "having dominion over all" has poisoned our world, and the nature that sustains it.
If you think morality comes from an ancient set of stories that were not even endorsed until the 4th century by a bunch of politically appointed bishops, and then want to endorse the teachings of that morality, most of us look at that in horror.
After all, do you really want to stone your neighbor for picking up sticks on Saturday? Or would you give your virgin daughters over to a mob so they can be raped? Or cause such a mental disease in pigs that they hurl themselves over a cliff in mass suicide?
More valid actually. We base things on facts and reality, not hope and faith.
Your fooling yourself .... everybody has hope and faith in something.
Your hope and faith is in yourself which finally is being the god of yourself ...
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Originally Posted by cupper3
Don't hold your breath. More and more people are realizing the false hopes that all religions hold out for an afterlife are just that, false hopes. More and more people are recognizing that rather than "having dominion over all" has poisoned our world, and the nature that sustains it.
If you think morality comes from an ancient set of stories that were not even endorsed until the 4th century by a bunch of politically appointed bishops, and then want to endorse the teachings of that morality, most of us look at that in horror.
After all, do you really want to stone your neighbor for picking up sticks on Saturday? Or would you give your virgin daughters over to a mob so they can be raped? Or cause such a mental disease in pigs that they hurl themselves over a cliff in mass suicide?
The one thing I find comical is that folks like you never seem to be as adamant in your face \ make it your business to oppose the UR folks who are just as adamant concerning folks like you will have to bow your knee in belief of the Biblical God ... and no other.
I'm convinced that isn't coincidental and I'm going to find it entertaining just who is going to be found out as the misguided. Scripturally, (and unfortunately) you're going to prove UR to be the false theology that it is.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
Your fooling yourself .... everybody has hope and faith in something.
Your hope and faith is in yourself which finally is being the god of yourself ...
Faith is a belief in the unknown and the unprovable.
Science is the understanding of the known, and the method to dwell into the unknown. Faith essentially says, "We don't know why that phenomena, therefor god". Science says, "We don't know, so let's try and find out why".
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The one thing I find comical is that folks like you never seem to be as adamant in your face \ make it your business to oppose the UR folks who are just as adamant concerning folks like you will have to bow your knee in belief of the Biblical God ... and no other.
Faith is a belief in the unknown and the unprovable.
Science is the understanding of the known, and the method to dwell into the unknown. Faith essentially says, "We don't know why that phenomena, therefor god". Science says, "We don't know, so let's try and find out why".
Science does not provide all the answers ...
Science admits "We don't know, so let's try and find out why". ... and call it a theory when it can't be provable.
Science through science can not answer definitely:
where did "it" come from?
if science says "A", then where did "A" come from ...
if science says "A" came from "B", then where did "B" come from ... and so on.
what\why is the purpose for human life existing?
we know why the purpose of oxygen to exist
we know why the purpose of water to exist
we know why the purpose of the sun to exist
we know why the purpose of the food chain to exist
we know why the purpose of the earth's moon to exist
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Originally Posted by cupper3
UR?? What does that stand for?
Really ... you haven't read anything from the ShanaBrown's, Heartsong', Pleroo's, DewDropInn's of this forum?
Universal Restoration: where as troutdude said it's the group hug feel good'ism
Gee twin. You missed my post where I said I have no idea what happens to murderers and child molesters. (Unlike some people on this board I don't profess to know everything.) Which means you missed the part where I said I let God decide since..... He's God.
I'm hurt that you aren't paying closer attention to every word I type. Not to worry though. I have excellent coping skills.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 08-13-2014 at 03:27 PM..
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
Science does not provide all the answers ...
Science admits "We don't know, so let's try and find out why". ... and call it a theory when it can't be provable.
Science through science can not answer definitely:
where did "it" come from?
if science says "A", then where did "A" come from ...
if science says "A" came from "B", then where did "B" come from ... and so on.
what\why is the purpose for human life existing?
we know why the purpose of oxygen to exist
we know why the purpose of water to exist
we know why the purpose of the sun to exist
we know why the purpose of the food chain to exist
we know why the purpose of the earth's moon to exist
Please educate yourself on the scientific method. You are embarrassing yourself in the use of theory right from the start.
Do you have ANY idea what step must occur before a theory become a theory? You know, like the theory of gravity? Of nuclear fission? Of the speed of light?
Do you have ANY idea? Until you do, you will not understand why your argument is scientifically illiterate.
Gee twin. You missed my post where I said I have no idea what happens to murderers and child molesters. (Unlike some people on this board I don't profess to know everything.) Which means you missed the part where I said I let God decide since..... He's God.
I'm hurt that you aren't paying closer attention to every word I type. Not to worry though. I have excellent coping skills.
Please educate yourself on the scientific method. You are embarrassing yourself in the use of theory right from the start.
Do you have ANY idea what step must occur before a theory become a theory? You know, like the theory of gravity? Of nuclear fission? Of the speed of light?
Do you have ANY idea? Until you do, you will not understand why your argument is scientifically illiterate.
As I thought .... you can't explain it other than trying to intimidate.
Science can't explain it:
"The big bang theory leaves several major questions unanswered.
One is the original cause of the big bang itself.
Several answers have been proposed to address this fundamental question, but none has been proven—and even adequately testing them has proven to be a formidable challenge."
** the non-fool's foolish answer: GodHebrews 11:3
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Nor did you give any definitive scientific answer to the purpose of your existence.
Last edited by twin.spin; 08-13-2014 at 05:25 PM..
Gee twin. You missed my post where I said I have no idea what happens to murderers and child molesters. (Unlike some people on this board I don't profess to know everything.) Which means you missed the part where I said I let God decide since..... He's God.
I'm hurt that you aren't paying closer attention to every word I type. Not to worry though. I have excellent coping skills.
And God provided the answer in which he does let us know what happens .... and you refuse to believe it for whatever reasons.
And God provided the answer in which he does let us know what happens .... and you refuse to believe it for whatever reasons.
Free advice: Don't go into the psychic business. If you try and make a living reading minds you'll go broke.
Last edited by DewDropInn; 08-13-2014 at 06:49 PM..
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to the Biblical God whether you like it or not because God desires 
