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jimmiej, that doesn't matter. God specifically told us to charge and teach that God will have all mankind to be saved and that God is the Saviour of all mankind.
So if there is, according to you, evidence that refutes God saving all mankind then that evidence is patently WRONG.
So, jimmiej, does your minister charge and teach God will save all or that "God will NOT save all"?
Why doesn't that matter? Why does 1 Tim. 4 trump Matt. 25 or John 3?
Eusebius is not using his terminology correctly. He insists that 1 Timothy passage is translated as 'God will save all' but this is obviously in error. He is using the English term 'will' as in 'Christmas will fall on December 25th', as an inevitability but the word used here is actually 'desire'. It should read 'God desires to save all', as shown in Luke 13:31. As has been shown through the Scripture, God does indeed desire that all men be saved, because he loves them (John 3:16) but He is bound by His perfect nature and justice and must hold to account those that reject Him.
Eusebius is not using his terminology correctly. He insists that 1 Timothy passage is translated as 'God will save all' but this is obviously in error. He is using the English term 'will' as in 'Christmas will fall on December 25th', as an inevitability but the word used here is actually 'desire'. It should read 'God desires to save all', as shown in Luke 13:31. As has been shown through the Scripture, God does indeed desire that all men be saved, because he loves them (John 3:16) but He is bound by His perfect nature and justice and must hold to account those that reject Him.
This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as a ransom for all, the testimony given at the proper time. (1 Timothy 2:3-6)
There is nothing in this passage that even remotely supports that all will be saved. Likewise, Jesus can be a ransom accessible by all and given for all, but there's no scripture that supports that it will be accepted by all and a litany of Scripture that supports the opposite, that many will reject Christ and will perish and few will accept His ransom and live eternally in heaven.
'As I live,' saith the Lord GOD, 'I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live.' (Ezekiel 3:11)
The term 'will' in those passages means desire and we know that all things that God desires does not come to pass, as much as you would like it to. God does not will, or desire, that we sin but last I checked we do. Unless you wish to make an argument that God desires that we sin, in which case your theology needs more than a tweaking.
The same Greek word used in 1 Timothy 2:4 is also the same used here in Luke 13:31, yes?
Just at that time some Pharisees approached, saying to Him, “Go away, leave here, for Herod wants to kill You.” (Luke 13:31)
Indeed it is. God desires that all men be saved, but not all men will be saved.
There is just no argument. As someone said earlier, the Scripture is not made up of one or two verses, but the whole of God's Word and must be accepted wholly.
Herod was a human and not God. That is why many translations, when thelema is used of humans, is translated as "wants" or "desires." But God get's what He wills.
There is God's will and there is God's intention. "Who hath withstood His intention?" (Romans 9:19). Answer: No one. In opposing God's will, men fulfill God's intention.
Obviously your words are against God's.
Isa_46:10 Telling from the beginning, the hereafter, and from aforetime, what has not yet been done.
Saying, `All My counsel shall be confirmed, and all My desire will I do.'"
Why is it that God WILL have all mankind to be saved per 1 Timothy 2:4-6?
Answer: Christ gave Himself a ransom for all.
In the Old Testament, any animal or human that was ransomed had to be freed.
Therefore, God really will save all mankind because all mankind were ransomed. They must be freed from sin and death into God's salvation. No ifs ands or buts about it.
Are you going to do a complete study of ransom in the Old Testament or are you going to continue spewing falsehoods?
Remember, God tells us to charge and teach He will save all mankind and is all mankind's Saviour (1 Tim.2:4-6; 4:10,11). Are you telling me God is telling us to lie?
"No one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and spirit."
"Not everyone who says to me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who do the will of my heavenly Father."
The above verses do not say such ones will NEVER EVER be saved. And if they did they would directly contradict God's very word of 1 Timothy 2:4-6; 4:10,11; Romans 5:18,19; 1 Corinthians 15:22-28; Ephesians 1:9,10; Colossians 1:20; Philippians 2:8-11; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:14; John 4:42 to name but a few.
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