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You either believe Jesus or you don't. The reality of rewards in the Millennial kingdom is clearly taught in the Scriptures. For example,
Rev. 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, 27] and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
That this extends into the eternal state is stated in Revelation 22:3-5.
Rev. 22:3 There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him; 4] they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. 5] And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.
Again, Jesus stated by way of the parable of the Minas that some would rule over ten cities and some over five cities.
Luke 19:17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’ 18] "The second came, saying, 'Your mina, master, has made five minas.' 19] "And he said to him also, 'And you are to be over five cities.'
Jesus told the apostles that in the Millennial kingdom they would rule over the 12 tribes of Israel.
Matt. 19:28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
And so, once again, you either believe Jesus or you don't.
Also, once again, I am 61 years old. Referring to me as 'young MIKE' in an attempt to talk down to me does not change what the Scriptures say.
So, let me do some math..
How many people do we suppose would be included in these mini-rulerships? A million? Considering the population of the earth and the total number of souls who have come and gone since salvation was first made available to mankind, and each gets 5 cities, where will these 5 MILLION cities be?
How many people do we suppose will inhabit each city? Since one person has rulership over 5 cities, should it be assumed they are all in close approximations?
How will it be decided who gets just 5 cities and who has the blessing of getting 10 cities?
Really ought to get over those insecurities, after all, If Christ be for us, who can ever come against us...
I believe the TWELVE THRONES are reserved for the 12 disciples, are they not? Or do we actually believe we will replace the 12 disciples because we will be proved to have greater faith?
You either believe Jesus or you don't. The reality of rewards in the Millennial kingdom is clearly taught in the Scriptures. For example,
Rev. 2:26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, 27] and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.
That this extends into the eternal state is stated in Revelation 22:3-5.
Rev. 22:3 There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him; 4] they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads. 5] And there will no longer be any night; and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them; and they will reign forever and ever.
Again, Jesus stated by way of the parable of the Minas that some would rule over ten cities and some over five cities.
Luke 19:17 And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’ 18] "The second came, saying, 'Your mina, master, has made five minas.' 19] "And he said to him also, 'And you are to be over five cities.'
Jesus told the apostles that in the Millennial kingdom they would rule over the 12 tribes of Israel.
Matt. 19:28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
And so, once again, you either believe Jesus or you don't.
Also, once again, I am 61 years old. Referring to me as 'young MIKE' in an attempt to talk down to me does not change what the Scriptures say.
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Originally Posted by zthatzmanz28
So, let me do some math..
How many people do we suppose would be included in these mini-rulerships? A million? Considering the population of the earth and the total number of souls who have come and gone since salvation was first made available to mankind, and each gets 5 cities, where will these 5 MILLION cities be?
How many people do we suppose will inhabit each city? Since one person has rulership over 5 cities, should it be assumed they are all in close approximations?
How will it be decided who gets just 5 cities and who has the blessing of getting 10 cities?
Really ought to get over those insecurities, after all, If Christ be for us, who can ever come against us...
I believe the TWELVE THRONES are reserved for the 12 disciples, are they not? Or do we actually believe we will replace the 12 disciples because we will be proved to have greater faith?
Do all the math you want. Speculate as you will. You still must decide whether or not you believe what the Bible says about it. Oh, and many believers won't rule over anything because they did not serve Christ in this life. While eternal life is freely given by grace through faith, eternal rewards and rulership responsibilities are earned.
You seem to misinterpret my post,This isn't about what I believe. I am interested in what all of you believe. Of course if we were to get into such a debate about what truly makes a Christian you have take everything anyone says with a grain of salt and go to God for the answer.
Love is mentioned 310 times in the bible 131 in the old testament and 179 in the new testament. If you notice God mentions about how he loves us many many times in the old and new testament if you also notice Jesus did not come to judge and condemn he didn't come to save soul by showing his awesome might he did everything in and out of love in fact every command he gave for us to do seemed to be an act of love if we were to do them.
God appears to be a God of love and thus as his children should we not be love? I do not claim to know the ways of God or that all my beliefs are correct in fact i can guarantee there are some beliefs I believe in that are incorrect and so I always keep a teachable heart. If one is to learn and grow in faith they cannot have an I am right and you are wrong no matter what attitude, they need to have the humbleness to admit they were wrong and learn from it.
in the end this sin't about what I believe this matters about what all of you believe and how you and God take what you believe an do with it.
did not mean to offend you blain, just putting what I see everyday on this forum. believe like me or you are not a true Christian. I hate that type of thing. not saying that was your point, just an observation.
The most important thing is salvation, which comes through faith, and it gives birth to everything else you mentioned, including the fruits of the Spirit.
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Not by works, lest any man should boast."
Some say "love is god", but the Bible says love is a fruit of the Spirit. Some try to save themselves talking about love, and by trying to be "loving", but since love is a fruit of the Spirit, the Spirit must come first.
when you walk in love you walk in God and God in you, how can anything be greater then that?
that is scripture fin, and what is make a Christian is having God in us, can't believe I had to explain that to you.
Like I said, I'll stick with what I said earlier, because it is 100% accurate. There are many important things in Christian life, and I posted what I posted. Feel free to disagree. I do not care.
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