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Two different sets of commands. The Law to Israel has been fulfilled/completed in Christ so we are no longer under thsoe. But premarital sex is still spoken of in the NT as wrong.
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expatCA, If I may take the liberty to say that instead of using the ambiguous term premarital sex perhaps explain about the Greek word porneia because I think the English word fornication comes from the Greek word porneia.
Matthew 15:19 says NOTHING about pre-martial sex--
For out of the heart come evil thoughts--murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
Hebrews 13:4
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. IS NOT SPOKEN BY JESUS...and again, FAILS to mention PRE-MARITAL SEX...
At Matthew 15:19 in the Greek is the word for fornication. The English word fornication comes from the Greek word porneia.
Porneia would cover all sexual acts outside the bonds of Christian marriage. That would also include having sex with an animal as immorality besides pre-marital sex.
At Matthew 15:19 in the Greek is the word for fornication. The English word fornication comes from the Greek word porneia.
Porneia would cover all sexual acts outside the bonds of Christian marriage. That would also include having sex with an animal as immorality besides pre-marital sex.
It takes a special kind of person to look at their dog and say, I'd hit that."
The words porneia and fornication are far to broad. There is a big difference between pre-marital relationships. and having sex with the family pets.
At Matthew 15:19 in the Greek is the word for fornication. The English word fornication comes from the Greek word porneia. Porneia would cover all sexual acts outside the bonds of Christian marriage. That would also include having sex with an animal as immorality besides pre-marital sex.
Seriously, it says CHRISTIAN MARRIAGE???? Please, try not to look like a tool...at least be honest
4202 porneÃa (the root of the English terms "pornography, pornographic"; cf. 4205 /pórnos) which is derived from pernaō, "to sell off") – properly, a selling off (surrendering) of sexual purity; promiscuity of any (every) type.
Look again, I do not see anything that says CHRISTIAN or MARRIAGE...
Stop listening to the Pharisees and THINK FOR YOURSELF...there is less stupidity involved.
expatCA, If I may take the liberty to say that instead of using the ambiguous term premarital sex perhaps explain about the Greek word porneia because I think the English word fornication comes from the Greek word porneia.
True as fornication is sex before marriage or sex between people not married.
Pornea means:
4348 porneu,w
porneu,w; 1 aorist evpo,rneusa; (po,rnoj, po,rnh which see); the Septuagint for hn"z"; in Greek writings ((Herodotus), Demosthenes, Aeschines, Dio Cassius, Lucian, others)
1. to prostitute one's body to the lust of another. In the Scriptures
2. to give oneself to unlawful sexual intercourse; to commit fornication (Vulgate fornicor): 1 Cor. 6:18; 10:8; Rev. 2:14,20; (Mark 10:19 WH (rejected) marginal reading).
UBS Greek Lexicon: pornia , ou m man who practices sexual immorality88.274
Louw-Nida Greek lexicon: pornea: one who engages in sexual immorality, whether a man or a woman, and in some contexts, distinguished from an adulterer or adulteress - 'a sexually immoral person.'
Pornos 4350
,a man who prostitutes his body to another's lust for hire, a male prostitute, ((Aristophanes), Xenophon, Demosthenes, Aeschines, Lucian); universally, a man who indulges in unlawful sexual intercourse, a fornicator (Vulgate fornicator, fornicarius (Rev. 22:15 impudicus)): 1 Cor. 5:9-11; 6:9; Eph. 5:5; 1 Tim. 1:10; Heb. 12:16; 13:4; Rev. 21:8; 22:15. (Sir. 23:16f.)*
There are various forms of the word and ALL indicate sex outside of marriage.
Bigotry has everything to do with it. Bigotry involves a desire to treat others differently because they doi not meet your criteria of acceptability (for WHATEVER reason). It reaches its ugliest effects when it is enacted into laws. There is NOTHING Christian about it. The fanatics or fundamentalist would-be dictators who want society to create, interpret, and administer "laws" to control others in accord with their God should reflect on these words from Paul:
Colossians 2:19,
. . . If you have died with Christ to the elements of the world, why, as if still living in the world, do you lay down the rules . . . Things that must all perish in their very use? In this you follow the 'precepts and doctrines of men.
Corinthians 10:23, . . . All things are lawful, but not all things are expedient. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
Romans 14:14 . . . I know and am confident in the Lord Jesus that nothing is of itself unclean; But to him who regards anything as unclean, to him it is unclean.
Wrong, it is more like this:
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For a Christian to encourage a gay person in the consummation of a gay "marriage" is to encourage their permanent indulgence in a lust of the flesh that Scripture clearly tells us God finds detestable, and to suffer all the spiritual consequences that come with that. It would be like encouraging you to go hiking down a path where we know a deadly wild animal is waiting to devour you. Far from hating you, we're loving you by warning you of the consequences and urging you to repent - which literally means to turn back and change directions.
That's why the Christian baker doesn't want to bake that wedding cake, and why the Christian adoption agency doesn't want to process those papers, and why the Christian church won't perform the ceremony. And that's why so many people like me won't be cloaking our Facebook profile pictures in the rainbow colors. What we want for you is something better than your flesh is leading you to, and we're praying for you to receive it. We're not going to encourage you to follow the desire of your flesh instead of the light God wants to put in your spirit.
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