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I would like to point out that while context is most certainly important I cannot see how it negates the actual words used which were:
26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading and vile passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or consider Him worth knowing, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do things which are improper and repulsive
So yes the "reason" is explained in the previous verses however there can be no mistaking the "acts" described are considered to be "degrading and vile" in verse 26 and "improper and repulsive" in verse 28.
Look, let's get one thing straight for once. Degrading and vile passions are STATES OF MIND and they are ALWAYS an abomination to God, no matter WHAT behavior they accompany!! It is the state of our mind that defines sin(missing the mark) or lack of agape love, NOT behaviors.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck, then it's surely a Pentecostal Christian publicly demonstrating an infilling of the Holy Spirit.
I couldn't resist throwing that out . . .
Don't bother me bro.....the Giver is the one who uses the gifts through us, so take it up with Him if you don't like it. Peace
This is good news. Finally, the state is recognizing that the indoctrination of children with false beliefs is harmful. Finally, children are being protected.
The truth is this ability of pastors is and should remain protected by law in church. ETA: Even if I think it is horrible, and vile and nasty. As volunteers of the state, no.
I haven't lied. What you have done is tried to cover up deep seated bigotry by stating it is "god" not you who has condemned homosexuality. Yet you fail to study Scripture in a scholarly fashion that would lead you to a different conclusion. You don't want a different conclusion. You want to hang on to judging people so that they become "less" than you---homosexuals are an easy target. History proves it. And yet the Church itself has in the past blessed homosexual unions.
It is modern day bigots that have allowed Satan to take over many churches in order to condemn without justification same sex marriage ceremonies that were practiced centuries ago.
The only person lying is you--and not to me---to yourself and your god. Perhaps you should spend some considerable time praying about it.
"The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of the one who prays.â€
― Søren Kierkegaard
Before you continue to openly slander for everyone to read. I would remind you that a good conversation has a begining.
It always amazes me how many more frequently mentioned sins in the bible are completely ignored but people get all up in arms about homosexuality. I wonder why that is? Because christians want to get divorced and eat stuff at the wrong times but don't want to be homosexual?
Before you continue to openly slander for everyone to read. I would remind you that a good conversation has a begining.
You haven't been slandered. Slander isare stating an untruth about someone that causes them harm. Haven't you admitted to pigeonholing the LGBT community into "sinful?" There well documented cases of LGBT members being harmed by the "preaching" of so-called good "christians." THAT is slander (http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/slander). Continually spouting off that homosexuals are "unnatural" and sinful without your getting a true biblical education---is bigotry, plain and simple and has caused tremendous pain, both physical and mental, to the people you say you "love."
Now keeping your mouth shut about it is not practicing bigotry as has been done on this thread continuously by ignorant "christians" on this thread is at least acceptable. Just like when my relatives kept quiet when they heard "negroes" would integrate schools. Eventually most of their views changed.
Who knows, if you keep quiet long enough maybe God will enlighten you, too!
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It always amazes me how many more frequently mentioned sins in the bible are completely ignored but people get all up in arms about homosexuality. I wonder why that is?
I would wager that what the Bible may or may not say about homosexuality has little bearing on one's personal viewpoint to the topic of homosexuality. Sex is a turn-on topic to many (Christians included) as the popular media and the ad moguls discovered long, long ago. People are obsessed with it. We all know that sex sells. And, it would seem that the amount of traffic to adult porn video websites is almost unfathomable. It's pretty safe to say that many professed Christians would be among this number since they are human.
Likewise, same gender intimacy is a turn-off to perhaps just as many. And some, even many, might be (and probably are) prone to gay thoughts themselves and so need to feign a cover for this feeling of guilt. And so, they feel that protesting homosexuality (especially loudly) serves this purpose. Whatever, whether covert gay or not, to many Christians the Bible is merely a convenient tool to give some legitimacy to their personal aversion/fear/guilt to homosexuality. Let's face it, other 'sins' are generally regarded as 'ho-hum' when compared to anything of a sexual nature.
Yes. We don't hear many cases of Christians stoning their neighbours for working on the Sabbath.
But we do hear many cases of christians "stoning" (aka KILLING) those who are LGBT--a "sin" many evangelicals have created to justify hate and murder...
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Peace
