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Old 08-03-2015, 08:30 PM
 
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One more time, what about Ruth and Naomi?
What about them? The story shows a strong family bond love. You realize that it is possible to love someone outside of an intimate sexual context, right?
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Old 08-03-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Bisexual is proof that sexual orientation is a crock.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:22 PM
 
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Bisexual is proof that sexual orientation is a crock.
If it's a crock... why do you get all riled up at even the suggestion you could be gay?

You might want to think this stuff through before you post it.
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:59 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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What about them? The story shows a strong family bond love. You realize that it is possible to love someone outside of an intimate sexual context, right?
Ruth love Naomi like Adam loved Eve.

Sounds like they were a family unit alright.

The family that copulates together stays together. Just like Adam n Eve right
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Old 08-03-2015, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Townsville
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Bisexual is proof that sexual orientation is a crock. Or did nature just couldn't make up its mind? The truth that I see is rather that you NEED David to be gay. I guess that helps you ignore other extremely clear verses that show homosexuality as being a great sin before God.
The above was not addressed to me but I'm always curious as to why Christians repeatedly raise the old chestnut ..."homosexuality is clearly shown in scripture as being a great sin before God" when this is simply not true. Correct me if I'm wrong but does this erroneous belief stem from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah "whose sin," which was homosexuality, so we are told by Christians, "was so great that they were destroyed by God" ...? Is this where the popular Christian catch-cry, "homosexuality is a grave sin!" comes from? If not, where else in scripture?

If the Sodom and Gomorrah story IS the culprit behind the belief that homosexuality is a grave sin, then isn't it high time that all responsible pastors educate their flock that, as far as the scriptures that describe the story are concerned anyway, homosexuality had NOTHING to do with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah? Why does the Church hierarchy allow this myth to persist? Other than the dubious motives behind the city's 'welcome wagon' that was sent out to 'greet' the angels there is not even the slightest HINT that homosexuality figured at all in the demise of these cities. God had laid plans to destroy S&G before this alleged incident occurred. And, this story concerns itself with only Sodom and not Gomorrah.

This is not to mention, of course, that Sodom and Gomorrah likely never existed in the first place and that the story associated with Sodom is merely a fable!
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Old 08-03-2015, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Is this where the popular Christian catch-cry, "homosexuality is a grave sin!" comes from? If not, where else in scripture?
There are actually 5 scriptural references besides the Sodom reference that specifically talk about same-sex activity. What is normally missed is that the references are about profligate and/or selfish activity and the nature of that usage is conflated with same sex activity of any kind even though it is clear that the attitude with which the activity is conducted is the concern. There is no specific reference to any sort of committed same sex relationship in scripture, and it is that concern for the well-being of the partner BY each participant that makes the essential difference.
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Old 08-04-2015, 04:34 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Bisexual is proof that sexual orientation is a crock. Or did nature just couldn't make up its mind? The truth that I see is rather that you NEED David to be gay. I guess that helps you ignore other extremely clear verses that show homosexuality as being a great sin before God.
Rather, BISEXUALITY is proof HETEROSEXUALITY is a crock. Or could nature(really, you said nature?) not decide.

Do you have the feelings to have sex with your gender on occasion? IF not, that just might meant you are heterosexual? If you do have feeling of desiring sexual contact with the same gender, you just might be BISEXUAL or HOMOSEXUAL?

There is no CONFUSION ad GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION..
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Old 08-04-2015, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Florida
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State of Kentucky forbids pastors from calling homosexuality a sin
Within 5 years it will be criminalized across the board along with other teachings from the word of God.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:38 AM
 
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Within 5 years it will be criminalized across the board along with other teachings from the word of God.
Only in your persecution, end of times fantasy, Finn.

But, if the fear of criminalization is what prevents you from discrimination against your brothers and sisters in the community , then so be it.

Follow the law. It is the thing we have in common.
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Old 08-04-2015, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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When more anti-Christian laws like this one are created, it will become difficult to know which topics are legal, and which are illegal. East Germans and Russians had this problem during the Soviet rule, and as a result their citizens avoided any discussions about Christianity, which of course was exactly what their governments wanted.
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