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Old 08-06-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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What else has shown to cause harm? Music? Yes. Movies? Absolutely. Video games? Yep. Automobiles? Oh, yes. Medication? Yep. Sports? Yes. Alcohol? Yes. Drinking too much water? Yes.

Ban them all?

Oh, but of course, anything to "protect the public".

NO!! Nazis, Soviets and North Koreans banned things under than excuse, and you want to copy-cat them?
Seriously, Finn?

Movies as a form of entertainment has been shown to cause harm, or is it possibly some movies?
Music (same question)
Video Games (same question)
Automobiles in themselves cause harm, or reckless driving?
Medication in itself, or improper use of it?
Sports cause harm, or some practices in some sports do?
Alcohol in itself?

How far do you have to stretch to justify a practice that consistently causes harm?

That was a pathetic excuse for rational thought.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Seriously, Finn?

Movies as a form of entertainment has been shown to cause harm, or is it possibly some movies?
Music (same question)
Video Games (same question)
Automobiles in themselves cause harm, or reckless driving?
Medication in itself, or improper use of it?
Sports cause harm, or some practices in some sports do?
Alcohol in itself?

How far do you have to stretch to justify a practice that consistently causes harm?

That was a pathetic excuse for rational thought.
You favor the government to decide which kinds of movies, music, games or sports should be banned, and which should not. You might agree, or you might disagree with their choices, but no one will ask your opinion, because you agreed to allow the government to decide for you. It is the Nazi / communist mentality.

It is not stretching. When the government gets involved in these kinds of decisions, then there is a big problem.
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:36 AM
 
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What else has shown to cause harm? Music? Yes. Movies? Absolutely. Video games? Yep. Automobiles? Oh, yes. Medication? Yep. Sports? Yes. Alcohol? Yes. Drinking too much water? Yes.

Ban them all?

Oh, but of course, anything to "protect the public".

NO!! Nazis, Soviets and North Koreans banned things under than excuse, and you want to copy-cat them?

The truth doesn't cause harm. You want to ban the truth, because some people are offended by it, and I think that is complete insanity.
Umm, sorry to burst your bubble, but of that list only water consumption ( assuming you are not in California ) is not regulated, sometimes heavily by the government. In fact many of those things are things that would horrify you if they were removed!

Imagine if the FCC's prohibitions on obscenity were removed, imagine if any age restrictions on "adult content" were removed, imagine if alcohol sales were entirely unregulated, imagine if all drugs were available over the counter with no age restrictions. Assume that MMA matches could legally be fought to the death.

We have government interference in the areas you listed, in order to prevent such a world. We restrict or limit rights and freedom as part of having a civil society. Religion is no different. We do not allow child sacrifices even if the Moloch worshippers might want them. Likewise, we don't allow stoning or beheading of sinners. And I cannot imagine that you are interested in removing this "government interference"...

-NoCapo
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Old 08-06-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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You favor the government to decide which kinds of movies, music, games or sports should be banned, and which should not. You might agree, or you might disagree with their choices, but no one will ask your opinion, because you agreed to allow the government to decide for you. It is the Nazi / communist mentality.

It is not stretching. When the government gets involved in these kinds of decisions, then there is a big problem.

Are you under the belief that the government has no right to regulate food, drink or activities that occur inside a government institution? So the government cannot ban say target practice in a maximum security prision? Cannot ban radical muslims from recruiting in a juvenille detention facilty? Once a person is incarcerated the govenment has no say in any aspect of their life otherwise it is like nazi Germany or North Korea? What is next, the government cannot tell its employees anything either?

This is not like the government telling its citizens what they can eat or wear or watch in their own homes or at friends. This is stating what is not appropiate in a government facility.
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Old 08-06-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Florida
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of course he would ... just as they would "protect the people" mentality in the modern day death camps of liberalism's alter of planned parenthood.

We understand what religious liberalism is, it's the practice of calling good-evil and evil-good.
Yep.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You favor the government to decide which kinds of movies, music, games or sports should be banned, and which should not. You might agree, or you might disagree with their choices, but no one will ask your opinion, because you agreed to allow the government to decide for you. It is the Nazi / communist mentality.

It is not stretching. When the government gets involved in these kinds of decisions, then there is a big problem.
I decided to allow the government to decide what is appropriate for their wards, just as I allow parents to decide what is appropriate for their wards. I may or may not agree with their decision, but it is their right. When a parent or a government tries to make that decision mandatory for people who are NOT their wards then you can start complaining. Meanwhile you are just blowing smoke.
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Old 08-06-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Are you under the belief that the government has no right to regulate food, drink or activities that occur inside a government institution?
I think I have made it clear I am in the opinion that they should not be telling pastors which Bible verses they can and cannot talk about, and it does not matter where this happens. This boils down to government ran religion.
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:30 PM
 
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I think I have made it clear I am in the opinion that they should not be telling pastors which Bible verses they can and cannot talk about, and it does not matter where this happens. This boils down to government ran religion.
So best to not let religious people into these institutions that way the relgious people can say whatever they want and the inmates do not have to hear them. That seems like a waste of a good resource but that should make you happy. There is no right to enter into a locked facility without permissions.
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Old 08-06-2015, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Florida
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So best to not let religious people into these institutions that way the relgious people can say whatever they want and the inmates do not have to hear them.
They don't have to hear them, or are not allowed to hear them?

No one is forced to listen.

You seem to think banning stuff is the solution to every problem.

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