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Old 12-24-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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And I have told you the 7th and final world power had to be in place and it is--the two horned beast of Rev 13--we have all witnessed rev 13 occurring. The blind guides on earth have no clue, so their flock has no clue.
... and the 8th political king - Revelation 17:11
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Do you have a list of how sin is graded ?.
I'm sorry...could you elaborate? What is your point? Are you suggesting that we should not call anything sinful? Or that we should just ignore sin where we see it? Do you also beleive we should ignore the murderer? Alcoholic? Thief? Adulterer?
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:40 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.
State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’
Spiritual ' house cleaning ' will start or begin with the ' House of God ' - 1st Peter 4:17
So, when the political turns on religion it will start with ' Christendom ' ( so-called Christian - Matthew 7:21-23 )

Also, it's Not being homosexual that is the sin, but the immoral practice of fornication ( porneia ) that is the sin.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:43 PM
 
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Do you have a list of how sin is graded ?.
The Bible grades sin as either being done on purpose or not, willful or not, premeditated or not, intentional or not.
With one sin being the unforgivable sin as mentioned at Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:43 PM
 
Location: SF Bay & Diamond Head
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We think that it's harmful to kids to tell them that it's a good and acceptable behavior.
Um, based on what? And what behavior are you talking about, loving a fellow human being? Geez!
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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I'm sorry...could you elaborate? What is your point? Are you suggesting that we should not call anything sinful? Or that we should just ignore sin where we see it? Do you also beleive we should ignore the murderer? Alcoholic? Thief? Adulterer?
Would you call calling out the sin in another pretty hypocritical if you had sin in your own life ?.

Also would you agree sin is sin, and sin is not graded on a curve?.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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The Bible grades sin as either being done on purpose or not, willful or not, premeditated or not, intentional or not.
With one sin being the unforgivable sin as mentioned at Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6
Get out of here.... we reap what we sow whether its willful or not.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:48 PM
 
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.........Also would you agree sin is sin, and sin is not graded on a curve?.
Isn't there such a thing as adamic sin. Sinful leanings toward/ wrongdoing inherited from father Adam.

We can all sin by mistake, unintentional, by accident, so sinning willfully on purpose is of a different grade.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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Isn't there such a thing as adamic sin. Sinful leanings toward/ wrongdoing inherited from father Adam.

We can all sin by mistake, unintentional, by accident, so sinning willfully on purpose is of a different grade.
So what you are saying is what we reap from willful and ignorant sin is different ?. Did the fall through Adam come, willfully, ignorantly or by deception ?.

Is not sinning purposely a mistake anyway?. Stop thinking by your beliefs you are conditioned by and think for yourself.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:19 PM
 
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So what you are saying is what we reap from willful and ignorant sin is different ?. Did the fall through Adam come, willfully, ignorantly or by deception ?.
Is not sinning purposely a mistake anyway?. Stop thinking by your beliefs you are conditioned by and think for yourself.
How is premeditated Not on purpose. Sinning by mistake is by accident.

I think you already know Adam sinned on purpose. Adam in effect committed suicide.
Only Eve was deceived. She blamed Satan ( that old snake in the grass ) but Adam knew what he was doing was deliberate.
Apparently he did Not want to live without Eve, and even blamed God for giving Eve to him.
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