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Old 08-21-2015, 04:34 PM
 
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As it has passed before the eyes of those who have thought they could identify all the elements of "the last days" for at least 400 years. Try singing a NEW song instead of the same old song and dance.

And I have told you the 7th and final world power had to be in place and it is--the two horned beast of Rev 13--we have all witnessed rev 13 occurring. The blind guides on earth have no clue, so their flock has no clue.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:35 PM
 
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Don't blame your inability to perceive on the messenger.

Ask your god for the ability to see truly.

I have read all your posts to me--- 0 knowledge of God has been presented by you. Just rambling words with 0 value.
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:28 PM
 
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You are sadly mistaken if you believe that. Someone paid to say that said it--every scholar on earth knows fornication= sex out of marriage.
Fornication is mentioned in the ot and nt--detestable to god and his will.
David fornicated with Bathsheba--it had 0 to do with prostitution.
Actually Gods word teaches in the NT--Law would be written on hearts--if one had the required love in their heart--they wouldn't even consider--stealing their brothers, murdering their brothers, coveting their brothers things, etc,etc all the way down the line.
Someone paid to what?! First of all, If anything most scholars your reading likely have a pre-bias because of their Christian upbringing, church denomination/institution they are being paid by, or "what they think is best for society," but I think its more a laziness issue since I've read many scholars arguments about it that don't even address the things I've mentioned (not to mention many more arguments I've heard on this topic). Oh btw, in Greek, por-no means male prostitute and por-ne means female prostitute...so what do you think por-neia would mean? ;p (sorry about the added hyphens but I don't like spelling a certain word on this computer, lol)

Secondly, David committed Adultery, not fornication/porneia. There is a huge difference as Adultery carried a lawful death sentence and the other did not (or any sentence at all in the Torah for that matter). Again, only cultic prostitution was directly condemned by law in the Torah. Regular prostitution was arguably condemned in the new testament but the context makes that debateable as well.

Lastly, the law being written on hearts can be a relative thing as Paul proved when discussing ones "conscience" in eating meat sacrificed to idols. Neither you nor your denomination has a monopoly on understanding the law. Also, before you bring up Jesus' words on coveting, you should realize that he is referring to coveting someone elses wife (Tyndales bible also translated it this way) rather than just any woman, given that the context is adultery and the Greek word for woman is the same for wife...so yeah I suppose I kinda agree the Messianic Jewish perspective on the sermon on the mount even though I'm not really a Messianic Jew. Anyways...nice try

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Old 08-21-2015, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I have read all your posts to me--- 0 knowledge of God has been presented by you. Just rambling words with 0 value.
Again, your inability to perceive is not the fault of the messenger.

You live in a narrow corridor, and yet still wear blinkers. It's truly a shame you are missing all the vistas that surround you.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:40 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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And I have told you the 7th and final world power had to be in place and it is--the two horned beast of Rev 13--we have all witnessed rev 13 occurring. The blind guides on earth have no clue, so their flock has no clue.
Do you have any of that stuff left?

I've haven't had visions like that since the late sixties. I think it was the pink blotter variety that did it then.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:57 PM
 
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Do you have any of that stuff left?
I've haven't had visions like that since the late sixties. I think it was the pink blotter variety that did it then.
Unlike drugs, religion is fertile ground for socially acceptable delusions and psychosis.
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Old 12-24-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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Another example of how your side just wants to box in Christians and take our freedom of religion. I predict in the future that freedom of religion will be so degraded that it will only be free to think in our minds that homosexuality is a sin, never speak it out.

The only thing you are doing here is trying by presenting a non-existent negative element called "massaging his ego". No maybe he feels like homosexuality is a destructive sin, and feels a God given responsibility to warn youth about it. But you want him to lie and say it is perfectly alright.
Many Americans disagree with you on each of those points. Why should the government teach your religious beliefs to a captive audience? Nobody is imposing on your freedom of religion or speech...just don't try to use the government to impose your beliefs on your fellow Americansl who hold differing beliefs.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.

State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’
Typical subterfuge from the evil ones.

They will do anything possible to keep Christ from being taught to the young ones that need him most. So that they can keep them confused and defenseless.
This is expected sore news for the people that have taken the mark of the beast.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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Typical subterfuge from the evil ones.

They will do anything possible to keep Christ from being taught to the young ones that need him most. So that they can keep them confused and defenseless.
This is expected sore news for the people that have taken the mark of the beast.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
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Old 12-24-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.

State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’
Do you have a list of how sin is graded ?.
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