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I can show you 6 major teachings from Jesus that prove the JW teachers are correct.
Here is a 100% proven fact, proving trinity religions are false.
Hebrews 2:7-9-- While on earth Jesus was made-lower than the angels= a mortal--Gods word is clear--no angel receives worship--thus no one lower does either--in trinity translations, they have followers bowing in worship to a mortal Jesus--major misleading error.--bowing in obeisance to a king is what Jesus received--not worship.
another error in trinity translations
truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise = error.
truly I tell you today, you will be with me in paradise.= correct.
Gods word clearly teaches,
Jesus was in the grave( Hades) for 3 days--impossible to be in paradise the first day.
John 1:1--In the beginning the word was, and the word was with( Ho) Theos( God), and the word was Theos( god)
it did not have the term-(ho) in the last line-- ho= the--thus--The God) it was not calling the word the God--plain theos = god( small g) carrying the biblical meaning--has godlike qualities, because( acts 2:22) it was Gods power going through Jesus, it was not Jesus doing the things, it was God doing them through Jesus, same as when God parted the red sea--Moses didn't do it--God did it through him.
as well the trinity teaching in the second line in plain English would have to be God was with God--but Gods word is clear--1 God, so impossible for God to be with God.
There is no trinity in existence. this is the true God--John 4:22-24
kjw47, no you can't, and haven't. Again, you are simply stating Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs. Jesus is plainly stated to be God in the original Greek. English translations properly reflect this.
For John 1:1 I will simply refer to you to the following two articles even though I know you will simply dismiss those mentioned as false teachers and proclaim that only Jehovah's Witnesses are God's true teachers.
Jesus' body was in the grave. Not His soul which was in Paradise.
You've been told before, Mike, the soul is the mind, the identity of the person and it is not immortal as the Ruach is, which is what returns to G-d after we expire...
kjw47, no you can't, and haven't. Again, you are simply stating Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs. Jesus is plainly stated to be God in the original Greek. English translations properly reflect this.
For John 1:1 I will simply refer to you to the following two articles even though I know you will simply dismiss those mentioned as false teachers and proclaim that only Jehovah's Witnesses are God's true teachers.
Arbitrarily sticking a comma after the word 'today' in Luke 23:43 isn't proof of anything.
Jesus' body was in the grave. Not His soul which was in Paradise.
The angels don't receive worship, but they are commanded to worship Jesus (Hebrews 1:6 quoting Psalm97:7) .
You simply don't understand the Scriptures you use in order to promote the Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs.
The exact opposite is true, its you who do not know.
Catholicism translated everything-- refused to let anyone read the bible( kept in latin for nearly 1000 years after the councils) except higher clergy. everyone who tried to translate to the language of the day, were burned alive for heresy. finally long after all the originals were gone, they allowed translating--the only works left to use were Catholicism works-- they ran once they could read for themselves, but had 0 clue as to all the translating errors to fit council false teachings. carried over into every trinity translation ever done. like the 3 errors I have shown you.
Gods word ( symbolism) says Jesus was witnessing to those in hell for the 3 days--so your assumption that his soul was in paradise is error.
worship = error in trinity translations--obeisance to a king is correct.-- Psalm 97 is speaking about Jehovah, not Jesus. Jehovah was king in the ot--Jesus had to be appointed as king( Daniel 7:13-15-- the ancient of days=Jehovah.
Only pertaining to His flesh is He lower then the Angels and yet all the Angels are given command to worship Him
The grave is not nonexistence and therefor Jesus being God in His Spirit is omnipresent at death but in the flesh He is limited only to time and space because of the flesh and for our sakes. At death however, He is omnipresent in Spirit by which He went and preached the Gospel to those who had already died in the Faith and in Spirit, He fills up all of Paradise.
Consider this, someone has even changed a comma to fit their false Theology.
Catholicism translating says worship--- reality says--obeisance to a king.
Here in the spirit, sitting at the right hand of God( did he sit at his own right hand)--rev 3:12--Jesus stresses to those who believe him over dogma, uses the term--MY GOD-- 4 times in a single paragraph.
Trinity teaching in plain English there is--God has a God= error.
Jesus and 3 real anointed teachers all teach--Jesus has a God, his Father--John 20:17, Rev 3:12--2Cor 1:3, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28--- 1Peter 1:3--- Rev 1:6--plus many other spots making this the #1 teaching in the nt.
the wise course for all is to listen to God when he spoke from heaven at Jesus' baptism-- he stated--This is my son the beloved in whom I am well pleased--LISTEN TO HIM. the only time in the nt God spoke from heaven= ultra important---believe Jesus.
The exact opposite is true, its you who do not know.
Catholicism translated everything-- refused to let anyone read the bible( kept in latin for nearly 1000 years after the councils) except higher clergy. everyone who tried to translate to the language of the day, were burned alive for heresy. finally long after all the originals were gone, they allowed translating--the only works left to use were Catholicism works-- they ran once they could read for themselves, but had 0 clue as to all the translating errors to fit council false teachings. carried over into every trinity translation ever done. like the 3 errors I have shown you.
Gods word ( symbolism) says Jesus was witnessing to those in hell for the 3 days--so your assumption that his soul was in paradise is error.
worship = error in trinity translations--obeisance to a king is correct.-- Psalm 97 is speaking about Jehovah, not Jesus. Jehovah was king in the ot--Jesus had to be appointed as king( Daniel 7:13-15-- the ancient of days=Jehovah.
Where does it say that he was in hell three days witnessing?...
The resurrection is indeed a future event at which time the soul will be reunited with the body. In the meantime the soul of the believer goes to heaven and the soul of the unbeliever goes to the torments side of hades.
Mike, we are awaiting spiritual bodies, not the rejoining of our spirit with our mortal bodies. You already know I don't believe unbelievers go to eternal torment.
The exact opposite is true, its you who do not know.
Catholicism translated everything-- refused to let anyone read the bible( kept in latin for nearly 1000 years after the councils) except higher clergy. everyone who tried to translate to the language of the day, were burned alive for heresy. finally long after all the originals were gone, they allowed translating--the only works left to use were Catholicism works-- they ran once they could read for themselves, but had 0 clue as to all the translating errors to fit council false teachings. carried over into every trinity translation ever done. like the 3 errors I have shown you.
At no time did the Roman Catholic Church ever have its hands on all of the New Testament manuscripts which have been translated into many different languages. Not just Latin. There is no way that the Roman Catholic Church which didn't even really come into it's own, so to speak, until around the 6th century A.D. could have 'tampered' with every single manuscript.
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Gods word ( symbolism) says Jesus was witnessing to those in hell for the 3 days--so your assumption that his soul was in paradise is error.
worship = error in trinity translations--obeisance to a king is correct.-- Psalm 97 is speaking about Jehovah, not Jesus. Jehovah was king in the ot--Jesus had to be appointed as king( Daniel 7:13-15-- the ancient of days=Jehovah.
Again, Hebrews 1:6 which quotes Psalm 97:7 (in the Septuagint) as well as Deut. 32:43, also in the Septuagint, refers to the angels worshiping Jesus who is God the Son.
Jesus was not in 'hell' for three days witnessing to unsaved members of the human race. It was probably after His resurrection that He went to Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4) and made a proclamation to the group of fallen angels who are currently imprisoned there. Compare 2 Peter 2:4 with 1 Peter 3:19-20. Jesus went to Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4) and made a proclamation to the spirits now imprisoned there who disobeyed God in the days of Noah (1 Peter 3:19-20). This refers back to the Genesis 6 account of the sons of God (a reference to the angels) who did not keep their first estate (Jude 1:6) and are now being kept in chains of darkness (in Tartarus) until the day of their judgment.
The only way you can hold on to your beliefs is by maintaining that the Roman Catholic church doctored all the New Testament manuscript by inserting Trinity doctrine. And such was not the case.
You believe what you want. I am not going to keep going back and forth on the issue. Your constant refrain that the Jehovah's Witnesses are the only true teachers and all others are false teachers smacks of a cult mentality. But if that's what floats your boat . . .
Mike, we are awaiting spiritual bodies, not the rejoining of our spirit with our mortal bodies. You already know I don't believe unbelievers go to eternal torment.
Heart_Song, we are not going to be resurrected into mortal bodies, but when our bodies are resurrected they will be bodies of immortality and incorruptibility (1 Cor. 15:50-54). Therefore, in that sense they will be spiritual glorified bodies, but they will still be physical bodies. Jesus' resurrected body was a glorified body, but it was still physical. It could be touched, and Jesus could eat food. But being a glorified body, it was capable of things our mortal bodies are not. God does not intend for us to through the eternal future as spirits.
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