If Jesus said no one has ascended to Heaven & David didnt ascend to Heaven, why do we think we will go when we die? (crucifixion, tradition)
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All is not as appears in this world, its view has you confused--the trinity religionssssssssss are a divided house--Gods word is clear about that--They will not stand-Mark 3:24-26) They pose as Christian but in reality are this-2Thess 2:3)
The religion Jesus began, serve the same exact God of the ot( Israelites)--YHVH(Jehovah) a single being God and accept Jesus as the Messiah.
Yea, however, your religion was not founded by Jesus, but by Charles Taze Russell in 1879...
Jesus served the G-d of the Sefer Torah or the TNK...Not the COT...
All is not as appears in this world, its view has you confused--the trinity religionssssssssss are a divided house--Gods word is clear about that--They will not stand-Mark 3:24-26) They pose as Christian but in reality are this-2Thess 2:3)
The religion Jesus began, serve the same exact God of the ot( Israelites)--YHVH(Jehovah) a single being God and accept Jesus as the Messiah.
Just as no one except for the high priest was allowed to enter into the holy of holies in the temple, and he could only enter once a year on the day of atonement,
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The bolded above is a false statement...
Hebrews 9:3 Behind the second veil there was a tabernacle which is called the Holy of Holies, 4] having a golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden jar holding the manna, and Aaron's rod which budded, and the tables of the covenant; 5] and above it were the cherubim of glory overshadowing the mercy seat; but of these things we cannot now speak in detail. 6] Now when these things have been so prepared, the priests are continually entering the outer tabernacle performing the divine worship, 7]but into the second, only the high priest enters once a year, not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance. 8] The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing,
Your other two objections need not be addressed. They have been amply covered already.
Most think heaven is somewhere after you die , physically. The reality is most are already dead spiritually. Rising from the dead is being blameless as the servant and son of God. This is how to enter the kingdom of heaven. Remember the Lord's prayer when He said the kingdom will come when God's will is done.
Find God's will and follow the prophets of God so you will see the kingdom of heaven.
Not everyone who cries to me Lord, Lord shall enter the kingdom of heaven but only those who do the will of my heavenly Father.
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
The original question was why people think they go immediately to Heaven or hell upon death. I think the answer is found in "tradition" as well as shoddy Bible study. As I understand the scriptures, a Christian who dies is "asleep in Christ"...to be awakened at the rapture. whats so hard about that?
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
The original question was why people think they go immediately to Heaven or hell upon death. I think the answer is found in "tradition" as well as shoddy Bible study. As I understand the scriptures, a Christian who dies is "asleep in Christ"...to be awakened at the rapture. whats so hard about that?
Everyone sleeps and is resurrected at the day of resurrection...
Hebrews 9:3 Behind the second veil there was a tabernacle which is called the Holy of Holies, 4] having a golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden jar holding the manna, and Aaron's rod which budded, and the tables of the covenant; 5] and above it were the cherubim of glory overshadowing the mercy seat; but of these things we cannot now speak in detail. 6] Now when these things have been so prepared, the priests are continually entering the outer tabernacle performing the divine worship, 7]but into the second, only the high priest enters once a year, not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance. 8] The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing,
Your other two objections need not be addressed. They have been amply covered already.
Yea...But you're still wrong...I don't care what Hebrews says, the author who write that obviously didn't understand the duties of the Kohen HaGodol...
Hebrews 9:3 Behind the second veil there was a tabernacle which is called the Holy of Holies, 4] having a golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden jar holding the manna, and Aaron's rod which budded, and the tables of the covenant; 5] and above it were the cherubim of glory overshadowing the mercy seat; but of these things we cannot now speak in detail. 6] Now when these things have been so prepared, the priests are continually entering the outer tabernacle performing the divine worship, 7]but into the second, only the high priest enters once a year, not without taking blood, which he offers for himself and for the sins of the people committed in ignorance. 8] The Holy Spirit is signifying this, that the way into the holy place has not yet been disclosed while the outer tabernacle is still standing,
Your other two objections need not be addressed. They have been amply covered already.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
Yea...But you're still wrong...I don't care what Hebrews says, the author who write that obviously didn't understand the duties of the Kohen HaGodol...
I am quite sure that you don't care what the writer of Hebrews wrote. The writer of Hebrews knew very well what duties of the Kohen HaGodol or high priest were. The only time the high priest entered the Holy of Holies was on Yom Kippur (the day of atonement) when he carried the blood of the sacrificial animal inside in order to sprinkle the blood on the mercy seat of the ark. Other than that neither the high priest or anyone else was allowed into the Holy of holies.
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