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Old 09-30-2015, 03:48 PM
 
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If a state allows group marriages then it can not prohibit some group marriages.

You seem to be confused. If Nebraska said that only men can have a CCP, then they would be in violation of the 14th because they are excluding women from having a CCP.
That was never the case with marriage, by the way
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I am for a nationwide CCP with nationwide standards BTW.
But does New York have to accept any permit Nebraska issues?

 
Old 09-30-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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That was never the case with marriage, by the way


But does New York have to accept any permit Nebraska issues?
No, because there is no nationwide CCP. The 14th applies to a STATE not treating citizens of that STATE equally. Like if state A only gave licenses to white christian men, but not anyone else. That would be a violation of the 14th. Just like a state allowing a man to marry a woman, but not allowing a woman to marry a woman was a violation of the 14th.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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But does New York have to accept any permit Nebraska issues?
Nope. If there was a federal law that said all states must honor state permits you could CC in any state. Same-sex marriage is federal law. ALL states must issue marriage licenses. Ms. Davis can't discriminate.

You don't get to tell the gays 'No'. Yay. It's a great country.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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That was never the case with marriage, by the way


But does New York have to accept any permit Nebraska issues?
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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That is incorrect. Some states have reciprocal agreements with other states regarding some types of licenses, such as guns, electricians, plumbers, etc. Lawyers and insurance agents, on the other hand, have to be licensed by each state in which they practice. All states recognize each others' drivers licenses, car registrations, and marriage licenses.
Like I said here, if two states have reciprocity agreements on concealed carry permits, then one would recognize the other's permit. In some cases, you would also need to check compliance for all the states you would be passing through going from Nebraska to New York.

I know where my licenses and permits are valid. I checked to see which states my issuing state had reciprocity with.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Not really. We actually think the Constitution is pretty good. We're not the ones that are taking incorrect SCOTUS decisions and arguing for more incorrect logic.
What you don't get, is that the Constitution, Article III, specifically says that SCOTUS is the final arbitrator of what the Constitution actually says.

Rather than whine and snivel about 'wrong decisions', lobby to have the Constitution amended.

Good luck with that. You DO know the formula, right?
 
Old 09-30-2015, 05:53 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Yet, you seem to think that because one state legalized same sex marriage, that it should apply to everyone in all states?
Nope.

SCOTUS said it. They didn't 'think it'. They said it. End. Of. Story.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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Government workers may have the "right" do do lots of things. And the federal judges have the right to throw them in jail until they do their job.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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What you don't get, is that the Constitution, Article III, specifically says that SCOTUS is the final arbitrator of what the Constitution actually says.
Judging by Viz and Jeff's posts......there's the regular Constitution and the far-right fundamentalist Constitution. The latter pieced together with the parts that serve their agenda.
 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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What you don't get, is that the Constitution, Article III, specifically says that SCOTUS is the final arbitrator of what the Constitution actually says.

Rather than whine and snivel about 'wrong decisions', lobby to have the Constitution amended.

Good luck with that. You DO know the formula, right?
Or elect a conservative president, who can then put conservatives on the bench.
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