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Ugh! ..Come on Twin! That's lame and you know it. The link is all about using scripture to discuss it this topic. If you are unwilling to challenge yourself in scripture you will not become any wiser with it and no better at debate on this forum..Meh, suit yourself ...
I understand what you were clarifying about and I was saying that from previous posts Drob4JC is not advocating that same sex is not a sin nor not wrong, rather the approach taken by him is done in a gentler tone.
OK, thanks for clarifying.
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Originally Posted by twin.spin
As far as those verses, "all scripture is God breathed" thus Paul didn't originate them.
I am one of the people who doesn't believe that to be true, hence our difference of opinion.
"I can't let this go. I can't. There must be some way to bring her back. Oh, I can't think about this now! I'll go crazy if I do! I'll think about it tomorrow. But I must think about it. I must think about it. What is there to do? What is there that matters? Tara! Home. I'll go home. And I'll think of some way to get her back. After all... tomorrow is another day!"
First of all, you cannot just assume they are all unbelievers because many of them have been Christians their whole lives and actively persue a relationship with Jesus. If you think they are not genuine Christians because they are gay and occasionally 'act on it' with their partner, that should raise pharisiacal red flags even in your own mind given the less judgmental tone of you're responses. Secondly, my point is there are too many potentially loving aspects of this as well questionable roots of its initial condemnation and even a few strangely supportive aspects of how God created the world (evidence within nature, varying creativity of inbetween genders, and scientific studies) to questionably call this sin... Anyways, I'm out of time for evening. Talk at you later.
I'm one of those, though I never knew Christ on a deep a level as i do now until I came out.
Thank you, for your compassion and empathy. Thank you for being here.
"i can't let this go. I can't. There must be some way to bring her back. Oh, i can't think about this now! I'll go crazy if i do! I'll think about it tomorrow. But i must think about it. I must think about it. What is there to do? What is there that matters? Tara! Home. I'll go home. And i'll think of some way to get her back. After all... Tomorrow is another day!"
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(What happened to the smiley face with teeth? A colon with a small "d" do not have the same panache.)
Win with love... truth is also part of the equation.
Just note... I have never thrown you under bus regardless of how much you disagree because for some reason I think you are a believer - which means you are a family member, albeit a compromised family member. Yet - you continue to throw me under the bus. Love says to continue to be thrown under the bus from time to time - so that's what I am doing. Peace.
I have no idea how you feel you are thrown under the bus---when what I speak is part of the "truth" equation that you value more than Jesus' love equation.
John 8:31b-32:
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Jesus said, "If you hold to my TEACHING, you are really my disciples. THEN you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
I'm curious as to how any truth you've posted with regard to the topic has set anyone free? Even the OP, in his several posts before disappearing, I could tell was struggling within himself. He wasn't free--because your "faith" had imprisoned him.
Your approach is the approach of a Pharisee. You may be a Nicodemus whom Jesus was kind enough to speak to, but when He did, He addressed Nicodemus as "You people----"
I have testified to having known a fine preacher and gospel musician who was a homosexual, closeted in the seventies, but my other college friends and I were sure he was. He died of Aids as the pastor of a Baptist church in Indiana. He could preach and play the most heavenly gospel music on the piano. He was a wonderful Christian man haunted by the demons that were beginning to appear in the Southern Baptist Denomination in which he had been raised and ordained.
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“Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you don’t understand these things? I tell you the solemn truth, we speak about what we know and testify about what we have seen, but you people do not accept our testimony.
If you don't precede it with typed words or one of the typed smilies like the It malfunctions.
That's odd.
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