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Adultery is a ridiculous paradoxical situation for a christian or non the later not having a guide except for Instinctive morality commonly defaulted by seculars and unbelievers. Christians believe they are in "love" and begin to manufacture an "it's OK " mindset as the spouse is bad and new gal or guy good. A simple ploy by Satan to stupids!!! It's sooooo "easy targeted " makes one wonder if any neurons are firing!!!??
Mike, blame the person who has faulted not an entire group of other people. Non believer and over forty years of being faithful to my spouse, not addicted to porn, sex, drugs, gambling or anything else. If I did become over come by an addiction I would not blame your God, your religion or anyone else's god or religion. The blame would be mine as well as the need to overcome that addiction through which ever means work for me.
I have empathy for whoever falls to an addiction and if a means using religion or a means using secular methods enables them to overcome their problem I am happy for them. Addiction was a problem when the world was much less secular then it is today and addiction will be a problem in the future regardless if the world becomes more secular or more religious. Just don't print the finger at people like me if a believer surcomes to an addiction problem, it does nothing to solve or prevent it from occurring and prevention of and assisting in overcoming the addictions is important, blaming others is counter productive.
And to Perry addicts who are non believers can find non church solutions. Religous addicts most likely have an additional support group, their church, and if they take advantage of it more power to them but it would be inaccurate to claim that addiction can only be beaten by god.
God is still working on me. I have issues.
I think I'll go to church Sunday for support and further training in righteousness.
If they do not support you (generally speaking) for being a sinner, will you be excommunicated?
Remember, the practice of excommunication arose in the early Church, handing them over to Satan.
God is still working on me. I have issues. I think I'll go to church Sunday for support and further training in righteousness.
We ALL have issues. You are hardly special. This board is FILLED with people with issues. The world is filled to overflowing with people who have issues.
If you think going to a church where they tell you that you are a sinner helps you deal with your issues....go for it. Personally the phrase "training in righteousness" (or anything else) makes me think of indoctrination and thousands of Chinese kids in little Mao suits but.... whatever. Obviously.... you get to decide how you're going to handle your issues.
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If they do not support you (generally speaking) for being a sinner, will you be excommunicated? Remember, the practice of excommunication arose in the early Church, handing them over to Satan.
Yes, unrepentant sinners can be asked to leave. Does Jimmie sound like an unrepentant sinner when he repeatedly says he strives to improve?
If they do not support you (generally speaking) for being a sinner, will you be excommunicated?
Remember, the practice of excommunication arose in the early Church, handing them over to Satan.
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
Yes, unrepentant sinners can be asked to leave. Does Jimmie sound like an unrepentant sinner when he repeatedly says he strives to improve?
You should never leave with the same baggage you arrived with, if you leave it at the Church.
Yes, unrepentant sinners can be asked to leave. Does Jimmie sound like an unrepentant sinner when he repeatedly says he strives to improve?
The churches would be empty if that was the case then. He that is without sin let him keep his ass sat down on the pew. The obsession with sin(especially what you think is sin in another) within fundamental evangelical Christianity is beyond a joke.
We ALL have issues. You are hardly special. This board is FILLED with people with issues. The world is filled to overflowing with people who have issues.
If you think going to a church where they tell you that you are a sinner helps you deal with your issues....go for it. Personally the phrase "training in righteousness" (or anything else) makes me think of indoctrination and thousands of Chinese kids in little Mao suits but.... whatever. Obviously.... you get to decide how you're going to handle your issues.
The Bible and human nature tells me I'm a sinner. Everyone is. My church preaches the gospel that Christ died for sinners, that we might be redeemed.
I'm an educated adult and made a choice to be a Christian.
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