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Old 11-17-2015, 06:00 PM
 
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Sure:

I said nothing about "all non-christians"

I said nothing about "all Christians.

When I was lost I used to look forwards to weekends, which were filled with sinful acts, thoughts and desires. After I met Christ, my desire for those things died. It didn't make me 100% sinless, but the desire for habitually sinful lifestyle died.
A little more clarification please.
So who are the people you were referring too ?.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
Sure:

I said nothing about "all non-christians"

I said nothing about "all Christians.

When I was lost I used to look forwards to weekends, which were filled with sinful acts, thoughts and desires. After I met Christ, my desire for those things died. It didn't make me 100% sinless, but the desire for habitually sinful lifestyle died.
Well, count me among those who are darn grateful that sipping a fine tequila and smoking herb while contemplating yet another fine sunset isn't a sin.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Christian men are having an alarmingly difficult time abstaining from the sexual sins of viewing pornography and committing adultery on their spouses, according to a new national survey. Tragically, married Christian men are failing miserably when it comes to these sins, as 55 percent look at pornography at least once a month and 35 percent cheated on their spouses in an extramarital affair.

"The rate of extramarital affairs appears to have a correlation to frequency of viewing pornography," Hesch proclaimed. "A married person who views porn several times a month is ripe to have an affair.”

Survey: Alarming rate of Christian men look at porn, commit adultery

Yes it a sad case and I am astonished with the rate that 35% of men cheated on their spouses. It a major issue and has also caused the downfall of Churches and major break up with families.
If by "Christians" this article is referencing "born again believers" i.e. fundamentalist Christians, I am not at all surprised.

Just look at the Duggar family. Look at the plethora of fallen televangelists from Swaggert to Haggard who have preached against the very things they were found doing.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:19 PM
 
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[quote=jeffbase40;41829212]Wrong, Christians face more temptations because we have an enemy who works relentlessly to bring strife into our lives. Satan has such pure hatred for God that he wants to make life as miserable as possible for God's people and it's a great victory to bring down a church leader into sin because the fallout is so much. As for people like you, Satan doesn't even bother because he's got you so sown up into deception.[/QUOTE

Having been raised Catholic, I have no understanding of evangelical Christian theology. Is the quote above from an evangelical Christian accurate?

Evangelical Christian lives are more tortured than others? And this is because everyone except evangelical Christians have already been condemned to hell so Satan doesn't need to bother with them?

Everyone in this world who is not an evangelical Christian faces no temptation or heartache? Because they are already doomed to burn in hell for eternity?

Please tell me I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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Having been raised Catholic, I have no understanding of evangelical Christian theology. Is the quote above from an evangelical Christian accurate?

Evangelical Christian lives are more tortured than others? And this is because everyone except evangelical Christians have already been condemned to hell so Satan doesn't need to bother with them?

Everyone in this world who is not an evangelical Christian faces no temptation or heartache? Because they are already doomed to burn in hell for eternity?

Please tell me I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
No, you're correct. That's the theology.
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Old 11-17-2015, 07:46 PM
 
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Christian men are having an alarmingly difficult time abstaining from the sexual sins of viewing pornography and committing adultery on their spouses, according to a new national survey. Tragically, married Christian men are failing miserably when it comes to these sins, as 55 percent look at pornography at least once a month and 35 percent cheated on their spouses in an extramarital affair.

"The rate of extramarital affairs appears to have a correlation to frequency of viewing pornography," Hesch proclaimed. "A married person who views porn several times a month is ripe to have an affair.”

Survey: Alarming rate of Christian men look at porn, commit adultery

Yes it a sad case and I am astonished with the rate that 35% of men cheated on their spouses. It a major issue and has also caused the downfall of Churches and major break up with families.
Unlike erotica, porn is not about sex. Its a form of trolling. The intent is to shock and offend.

In Internet terminology a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages as well as top post flooding and impersonating others -- designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion. A troll's main goal is usually to arouse anger and frustration or otherwise offend the message board's other participants, and will write whatever it takes to achieve this end.

One popular trolling strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning."
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Old 11-17-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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Well, count me among those who are darn grateful that sipping a fine tequila and smoking herb while contemplating yet another fine sunset isn't a sin.
Wait, What?-those are sins?
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Old 11-17-2015, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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•A non-Christian does not have access to God, in times of trouble.
You are definitely a sinner, because the above is a flat out falsehood. You are spreading lies. I am not a Christian and I have access to God 24/7. God has absolutely saved my life in times of trouble, in two cases quite literally, and has worked in my life in great times of need.

Shame on you for spreading lies about God.
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Old 11-18-2015, 12:49 AM
 
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Unlike erotica, porn is not about sex. Its a form of trolling. The intent is to shock and offend.

In Internet terminology a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum and posts inflammatory, rude, repetitive or offensive messages as well as top post flooding and impersonating others -- designed intentionally to annoy or antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion. A troll's main goal is usually to arouse anger and frustration or otherwise offend the message board's other participants, and will write whatever it takes to achieve this end.

One popular trolling strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning."
Perfect definition. Only way around them is to ignore them.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Having been raised Catholic, I have no understanding of evangelical Christian theology. Is the quote above from an evangelical Christian accurate?

Evangelical Christian lives are more tortured than others? And this is because everyone except evangelical Christians have already been condemned to hell so Satan doesn't need to bother with them?

Everyone in this world who is not an evangelical Christian faces no temptation or heartache? Because they are already doomed to burn in hell for eternity?

Please tell me I'm interpreting this incorrectly.
No, it is not correct.
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