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Old 11-06-2015, 12:39 AM
 
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Former child star Kirk Cameron says that fornication and adultery are far bigger threats to the institution of marriage than gay marriage is.

In a May 2 interview, Cameron said that same-sex marriage debates distract Christians from more pressing issues.


"If the people sitting in the pews are fornicators and adulterers, the church will destroy marriages much more quickly than those outside the church," Cameron told AL.com.

"I think the greatest threat to marriage is not other people's definition of marriage," he said.


Kirk Cameron says fornication and adultery are bigger problems than gay marriage | Christian News on Christian Today

Well he is right and fully correct. He is also fully correct stating that gay marriage is a distraction. There are much more important issues the church need to deal with than the topic of gay marriage.
Kirk Cameron is generally not correct (pals with the Left Behind folks). But he's right here.

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He's absolutely right about this. It's one thing when people screw around on each other when there are only adults involved, but when they act so casual and irresponsible about marriage, like it's some joke especially when there are kids involved, they have absolutely no right to look down on gay couples wanting to marry. Not to mention that these philandering married people are typically in a better tax situation than if they were single, so, to add additional insult, taxpayers are subsidizing this nonsense, since married people typically get a tax break, and the tax break isn't based on any sort of merit or desirable behavior. I guess that's "family friendly" to some politicians, though.

The High Price of Being Single in America - The Atlantic

And regarding the statement above that gay marriage adultery and fornication hurt the reputation of marriage, that's true, but because gay marriage makes up such a small proportion of marriages, heterosexual marriage adultery and fornication impact many more lives than do gay marriage transgressions.
If rather than being single (which people can't help), there was a tax on divorce, it would go down by half.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:16 AM
 
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Kirk is right, here is Matt Fradd that talks about porn addiction. If you remember Kirk's movie, "Fireproof" about a man trying to save his marriage there is a scene where the man takes his computer outside and destroys it with a sledge hammer. It wasn't blatant in the movie since they wanted to keep it clean but that was to show he was fed up with his computer sex addiction and he wanted to get rid of it since it was destroying his marriage. This is a huge problem in our culture now. Matt Fradd also had a porn addiction but overcame it. He has a book on it and does talks on it.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:35 AM
 
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Former child star Kirk Cameron says that fornication and adultery are far bigger threats to the institution of marriage than gay marriage is.

In a May 2 interview, Cameron said that same-sex marriage debates distract Christians from more pressing issues.


"If the people sitting in the pews are fornicators and adulterers, the church will destroy marriages much more quickly than those outside the church," Cameron told AL.com.

"I think the greatest threat to marriage is not other people's definition of marriage," he said.


Kirk Cameron says fornication and adultery are bigger problems than gay marriage | Christian News on Christian Today

Well he is right and fully correct. He is also fully correct stating that gay marriage is a distraction. There are much more important issues the church need to deal with than the topic of gay marriage.
Cheating on one's partner, gay or straight is WRONG. Sex before marriage, in an adult consenting relationship, is fine. In fact I would go as far as to say you are silly if you don't have sex with a person you intend to spend your life before you marry. You should get to know as much as you can about them before making the marriage commitment, that includes sex as it is such a big part of most relationships. We were glad our Christian children lived with their partners for a couple of years before tying the knot, very sensible.
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Old 11-06-2015, 02:22 AM
 
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Cheating on one's partner, gay or straight is WRONG. Sex before marriage, in an adult consenting relationship, is fine. In fact I would go as far as to say you are silly if you don't have sex with a person you intend to spend your life before you marry. You should get to know as much as you can about them before making the marriage commitment, that includes sex as it is such a big part of most relationships. We were glad our Christian children lived with their partners for a couple of years before tying the knot, very sensible.
But what if they get pregnant before marriage? They might feel they had to get married, not a good thing. Some relationships can survive that and some can't. I would hope the young person takes that into account and talks about it with their partner and decides if that were to happen they would get married and stay married.
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:33 AM
 
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But what if they get pregnant before marriage? They might feel they had to get married, not a good thing. Some relationships can survive that and some can't. I would hope the young person takes that into account and talks about it with their partner and decides if that were to happen they would get married and stay married.
People have kids out of wedlock these days, NO BIG DEAL! Just because a person gets married doesn't mean the marriage will survive, I think more break down these days than those that don't!
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:54 AM
 
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But what if they get pregnant before marriage? They might feel they had to get married, not a good thing. Some relationships can survive that and some can't. I would hope the young person takes that into account and talks about it with their partner and decides if that were to happen they would get married and stay married.
Bristol seems to be flourishing with two children with different daddies and no husband..
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Old 11-06-2015, 08:09 AM
 
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Fatima, 100 years later, and the constellation Virgo - Catholic Answers Forums

Kirk is right, here is Matt Fradd that talks about porn addiction. If you remember Kirk's movie, "Fireproof" about a man trying to save his marriage there is a scene where the man takes his computer outside and destroys it with a sledge hammer. It wasn't blatant in the movie since they wanted to keep it clean but that was to show he was fed up with his computer sex addiction and he wanted to get rid of it since it was destroying his marriage. This is a huge problem in our culture now. Matt Fradd also had a porn addiction but overcame it. He has a book on it and does talks on it.
Yeah.

The computer made him do it.

Typically lame response from a person too devoid of character to take responsibility for his own actions.

Blame Satan.

Blame Bill Gates.

Blame electricity for allowing computers to boot up.

Sad, weak, small people.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Former child star Kirk Cameron says that fornication and adultery are far bigger threats to the institution of marriage than gay marriage is.

In a May 2 interview, Cameron said that same-sex marriage debates distract Christians from more pressing issues.


"If the people sitting in the pews are fornicators and adulterers, the church will destroy marriages much more quickly than those outside the church," Cameron told AL.com.

"I think the greatest threat to marriage is not other people's definition of marriage," he said.


Kirk Cameron says fornication and adultery are bigger problems than gay marriage | Christian News on Christian Today

Well he is right and fully correct. He is also fully correct stating that gay marriage is a distraction. There are much more important issues the church need to deal with than the topic of gay marriage.
He's absolutely right, of course.
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Old 11-06-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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Cheating on one's partner, gay or straight is WRONG.
Says who? How do you know that? Or are you just making assumptions?
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Old 11-06-2015, 10:25 AM
 
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Says who? How do you know that? Or are you just making assumptions?
Do you agree with the statement made by Bluecheese?
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