Kirk Cameron says fornication and adultery are bigger problems than gay marriage (atheist, Christians)
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What is this "common standard of love/keeping the best interest"? How did we get it? Where did it come from? Was it some cosmic rule book that fell out of the sky one day?
I have my theories, other people have theirs. But as I asked before, and I'm asking again: why does that matter, viz?
Good for you. But would it be immoral to do so? If your standard of morality is simply a chemical reaction, how can you suggest that anyone else is immoral to do it?
Spanking a child is wrong on every level. It is immoral. The disgusting part is the bible is used to justify the behavior.
I am able to discern what is right and wrong. Spanking is wrong and abusive. I do not suggest it is immoral. I state it is immoral. No equivocation, I am solid on this. Why aren't you?
As a community we also decide right and wrong together. We have decided as a collective group we should not kill another.
However, we have also decided as a group there are exceptions. Self-defense comes to mind. It would not make it any easier knowing you killed another human being if you were in the fight of your life.
Yes. Everything in our body is a chemical reaction. Everything. Where did God locate your moral compass?
The entire premise of this thread is about whether something is moral or not.
Uh huh. And we are in agreement that love/keeping the best interest of everyone in mind is the way to determine the morality of something. I'll ask for the third (I think) time: Why does it matter where we believe that agreement stems from?
Spanking a child is wrong on every level. It is immoral. The disgusting part is the bible is used to justify the behavior.
I am able to discern what is right and wrong. Spanking is wrong and abusive. I do not suggest it is immoral. I state it is immoral. No equivocation, I am solid on this. Why aren't you?
Says you. But you don't get to decide that. Others would disagree with you.
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As a community we also decide right and wrong together. We have decided as a collective group we should not kill another.
However, we have also decided as a group there are exceptions. Self-defense comes to mind. It would not make it any easier knowing you killed another human being if you were in the fight of your life.
Yes. Everything in our body is a chemical reaction. Everything. Where did God locate your moral compass?
Too bad that chemical reaction doesn't give you the ability to determine morality.
Says you. But you don't get to decide that. Others would disagree with you.
Too bad that chemical reaction doesn't give you the ability to determine morality.
I do get to decide that.
I have no concern if you, or others think it is a great thing to raise your hand to your children, so much you defend the practice.
It is the mind of an abuser that protects, and holds dear the practice of spanking. Why would I listen to an abuser of children to determine my moral compass? The answer is, I don't.
Where did God put your moral compass? It is very damaged if you support spanking children.
I have no concern if you, or others think it is a great thing to raise your hand to your children, so much you defend the practice.
It is the mind of an abuser that protects, and holds dear the practice of spanking. Why would I listen to an abuser of children to determine my moral compass? The answer is, I don't.
We can wander off onto the tangent of whether or not spanking is abuse. Honestly.....I doubt we'll settle it. But even if it were, wihtout some kind of standard of morality,all you've got is an opinion that abuse or physical assault is immoral.
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Where did God put your moral compass? It is very damaged if you support spanking children.
He implanted it in my heart. I also know what he has revealed in his Word.
Uh huh. And we are in agreement that love/keeping the best interest of everyone in mind is the way to determine the morality of something. I'll ask for the third (I think) time: Why does it matter where we believe that agreement stems from?
Maybe this will help.
Although Viz is pretty good at "forgetting" about certain questions and certain threads....
Originally Posted by Pleroo Uh huh. And we are in agreement that love/keeping the best interest of everyone in mind is the way to determine the morality of something. I'll ask for the third (I think) time: Why does it matter where we believe that agreement stems from?
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Originally Posted by TroutDude
Maybe this will help.
Although Viz is pretty good at "forgetting" about certain questions and certain threads....
We can wander off onto the tangent of whether or not spanking is abuse. Honestly.....I doubt we'll settle it. But even if it were, wihtout some kind of standard of morality,all you've got is an opinion that abuse or physical assault is immoral.
He implanted it in my heart. I also know what he has revealed in his Word.
We are speaking about morality, and spanking fits this very nicely. There is nothing to settle. Spanking is immoral. It is abusive. It is wrong. No tangent. This is about morals.
What makes you think God did not implant spanking/immorality? Perhaps you missed that day. Every cell of my being knows hitting a child is an anathema to God.
The heart is a muscle and chemical reactions make it pump. When the heart is dissected, where would we find this moral compass?
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